ID TAGS FOR MECHANICAL ROOMS 2

[davereed]

IAM ABOUT TO EMBARK ON A 3-4 MONTH PROJECT OF IDENTIFYING
ALL THE EQUIPTMENT/PIPING/ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS,ETC.
ANYONE HAVE INOVATIVE IDEAS FOR THIS PROCESS?
MY FIRST THOUGHT IS TO HAVE ID TAGS, THAT MAY BE HUNG FROM VALVES AND SO FORTH. CREATE SCHEMATICS/DRAWINGS TO COINCIDE WITH THE PIPING.

 

[pennpiper]

You might want to think about this.
The end result is important to a number of people.
A. The person who assigned you this task. Ask that person what is their goal and what is important to them.
B. The operators work in thes area on a daily basis. Ask them what is important and thay would like to see when the job is done.
C. The maintenance people must repair and maintenance the equipment, piping, instruments, etc. in this area. Ask them what is important and thay would like to see when the job is done.
D. You have been assigned this task so you should ask yourself what you would like to see when the job is done?

 

[davereed]

I guess my concern,is , having a one time shot, and leaving something rather inovative

 

[mizzoueng]

Well, if you are in a manufacturing plant, and there are column numbers, you could start at one end and work your way down. As I am a ME my example involves valves.

For example:

On column line F, there are valves F-1 through F-197. F-1 is at the north end of the plant and 197 is at the south

You could then have a database of what each valve is and what each feeds. Is it normally open or closed? Is it a butterfly valve? Gate? 150#? 300#? Manually operated or controlled? If controlled, by air, electric, or hydraulics? Where are the controls for that valve?

I've seen this implimented at a Ford assembly plant and it helps out a lot. Especially when you need to shut down a perticular machine and need to know excatly which bus to disconnect, valve to shut, pumps to turn off, etc.

 

[Zapster]

I would have to agree with pennpiper. I was given a similar task once and found that there were a number of partial P&IDs that the operators, maintenance folks, and engineers used. After talking with all the folks, the job expanded into making new comprehensive P&IDs and PFDs that were complied from a number of different systems (each with their own P&IDs) and installed at different times over the years. This municipal power plant had a 50 year history at this site with a number of different power generating systems. In the end, it was decided not to make new numbering system that would confuse the different departments. Instead, we added a single prefix to describe the general area/modification and used the IDs off the old P&IDs. We had tags made and everyone was happy. If I had gone in and put together a comprehensive P&ID with new tag numbers, most of the experienced folks would have preferred to keep their old partial prints.

Keep in mind that no one wanted an innovated numbering scheme. They all wanted familiarity. The new P&IDs and PFDs for the plant were well received because they ended up taking all the bits and pieces that different groups had and made them available to everyone in one package. No innovation required, just a lot of detective/leg work to find all the information and then compile it in a few documents so everyone could have access.

 

[BigInch]

We order tags by Area Name, System Name, Device Type & Number.

Pump Station, Hydrocarbon Drain, pump 10, unit A falls out like,

PS2:HC-010A

PS1:FW:T-001 => pump station 1, Firewater, Tank 1



Going the Big Inch!

http://virtualpipeline.spaces.msn.com

 

[trashcanman]

Take lots of photos too.