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Insulation test on winding 5

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sparky1976

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Mar 12, 2001
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Is there any one could advise me how often to check the motor winding insulation ?

Tanks
Yamin
 
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yamin:-
if the motor is sized correctly to the driven load and is not over loaded or stressed in any way ie:-under or over volts,balanced supply or contaminated(build up of dirt reducing cooling form)then most motor manufacturers would recommend a full electrical test each bearing change. however should one of the above conditions change then your own discretion would apply. for high voltage machines a p.i. test should be done at least once a year on the motor windings as you would do a yearly maintanence.this is ofcourse depending what maintanence schedual you have in place.
hope this will help.
kind regds.








 
Please, could you be more specific about the motor and industry standards adherence.
 
Jbartos,
They are medium voltage motor 3.3kV and 400 Volts motor. Dusty enviromental, I think IEEE standard ???
 
yamin
The 400 v motor If its tefc then don't bother unless it has a problem.If it is open frame then say anually on your normal maintenance routine from the contactor when supply is isolated. Modify the frequency if you have a history of insulation failure. (after you have looked a why the failures).
The 3.3kv as per teco's recommendation

Regards Don
 
only you, the user knows! motor insulation design life is 30 years but :
how critical is the motor? are there backup/spares available incase of unexpected failure? for example: sump pump motors might get meggered once every 3 - 5 years whereas the exact same motor used in a nuclear safety related application or Navy warship might get meggered twice a year. What is most important I think is the TREND. So you establish a base line megger value of the new motor or new winding if after a rewind. A brand new winding should be meggered before installation. Then after one year or two (next outage) repeat the megger and continue at this pace until you start noticing a downward trend, you would want to SCHDULE a refurbishment. After all, the only reason to perform preventive maintenance such as megger testing is to prevent that operational failure which could cost jobs; scrap the motor; and always seems to happen right before a holiday!
 
motor man
Yes I bow to your common sense statement. yes I was assuming those hack motors non critical etc etc I do megger our compressor motors etc every year because they are critical. One thing you did miss though -- the **** motors always go at 15 minutes to home time friday

regards Don
 
A star to motorman for his accurate and concise response. All that I may add is that the frequency of testing is usually increased once the downward trend is first noticed. Also, a pat on the back to Don01 for his addition of the Friday afternoon timing for such failures....only someone that has been in maintenance will understand the fact that a motor will always fail at the worst possibe moment (Murphy's Law, Maintenance Section....).
 
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