mechanical properties of SAE 1010 2

[fusitexa]

hi, guys;

we want to purchase SAE1010, but we have problems with its mechanical properties which we couldn't find in SAE specifications. we use SAE J403 specification as reference for its chemical composition and no problems. as far as i know, SAE1010 is CS type, grade 1. but mechanical properties is not required in SAE j2329.

however, mechanical properties is very important for us and we have a requirement for it. so we need to know SAE1010's mechanical properties variation range. i find that there are mechanical properties of SAE1010 in MatWeb. my problem is that the values in MatWeb is reliable and no problem to give to the supplier?

any suggestion will be appreciated and thanks in advance.

my english is not good and sorry.

 

[fusitexa]

form: sheet.

 

[swall]

Do you need mechanical property information for the structural integrity of the product or do you need the information for forming? If the latter, the mills have historically supplied customers with a grade necessary to form the part.

 

[fusitexa]

swall,

thanks for your reply.

i need the mechanical properties information to meet the requirement of the product. in other words, we have an minimum yield strength requirement on SAE1010. but we don't know what the yield strength range of SAE1010 is and whether the requirement for supplier is appropriate or not? so far, we haven't considered other grade steels yet.

BR

 

[stanweld]

Mechanical properties will vary substantially with condition; e.g., cold worked, cold worked and process annealed, hot worked, etc. What is the condition of your material? What is the product shape of your material - sheet, strip, bar?

 

[swall]

Take a look at the following ASTM specs: A 109, A 414,A 1011 and A 1008. They all have specificed mechanical properties to some extent. They are not all 1010--some are 1025 and some are HSLA grades, but it would be a good place to start.

 

[israelkk]

Swall

ASTM A109 is for strips not for sheets. And it specifies tensile strength as an approximation but not as a requirement.

 

[swall]

Yes,I know, which is why I suggested the list of specs as simply a place to start. A 109 covers strip up to 24" wide.

 

[fusitexa]

stanweld，

the shape is sheet.

 

[Quimicobrujo]

Dear Fusitexa: I attached the information regarding to the mechanical properties of SAE / AISI 1010, with its cross references.

I hope that can help you with your question!!

Regards from Queretaro, Mexico.

http://files.engineering.com/getfil...-aa1b-de755a259bc4&file=QuimicoBrujo_Info.pdf

 

[fusitexa]

quimicobrujo,

this is very helpful, thank you very much. i really appreciated it.

BR
fusitexa

 

[israelkk]

Quimicobrujo

fusitexa is looking for sheet spec not bars.

 

[stanweld]

fusitexa,
Is the sheet cold rolled? Cold rolled, process annealed and temper rolled? Essentially for "dead soft" conditions the Yield strength will be approximately 20 to 25 ksi, the tensile strength approximately 35 to 40 ksi. Strengths will increase depending on process annealing temperatures and degree of temper rolling. It will increase even greater depending on the percentage cold reduction when the sheet purchased cold reduced.

 

[gtaw]

AISI and SAE specifications are based on chemistry and does not consider state of heat treatment or processing methods.

Mechanical properties are dependent on chemistry, processing, and final state of heat treatment.

A casting and forging can both have the same chemistry, but the mechanical properties of the forging are superior because of the mechanical work introduced by the forging operation.

The strength of a cold worked material is higher than that of a material that is in the annealed condition. The simple act of cold forming or bending sheet stock will increase the strength of the material that is strain hardened by cold working.

AISI/SAE materials can be supplied in the annealed, normalized, as wrought, hot rolled, cold rolled, quenched, or quenched and tempered conditions. Not to mention as forged without subsequent heat treatment. Each of the materials listed will have the same chemistry, but the mechanical properties will differ for each condition supplied.


Best regards - Al

 

[mrfailure]

I would try the Worldwide Guide of Equivalent Ferrous alloys. This compendium lists mechanical properties for a broad range of alloys conforming to 1010 and has the advantage of listing international specs which may be more readily available to you to boot.

Aaron Tanzer

http://www.lehightesting.com

 

[fusitexa]

stanweld,

thanks. SAE1010 is cold-rolled and be used for stamping process.one parameter we used to evaluate tempering state of CS(commercial steels)is HRB(40~65 for SAE1010, right?) except the chemical composition. so if no mechanical properties requirement, chemical composition, hardness, maybe plus grain size, are enough or not, i mean SAE1010 CRS.

gtaw, mrfailure,

the information is very useful and thanks a lot.

 

[mrfailure]

I should clarify that the Worldwide Guide properties are specified, not typical. Also, the actual name is Worldwide Guide to Equivalent Irons and Steels and is published by ASM. 1010 is capable of meeting your mechanical requirements. If you do not find a commercial alloy which already specifies your mechanical requirements, you can always specify them as a purchasing requirement; just make sure they give you a test report confirming the properties.

Aaron Tanzer

http://www.lehightesting.com

 

[stanweld]

Temper designation, verified by hardness testing (most often Rockwell superficial), is required for your stamping requirement. If deep drawing is required, you will need to require additional testing.

 

[fusitexa]

mrfailure, stanweld,

thanks for your reply.

 

[dgallup]

Does anybody know if Worldwide Guide of Equivalent Ferrous alloys is due to be revised? I was considering buying it until I saw it's over ten years old. I'd hate to spend that much money for a book only to have it revised next year.

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