ianmcq26
Chemical
- Feb 8, 2007
- 4
Dear All
I am currently trying to determine the discharge capacity for the scenario of blocked outlet (closed valve) of a screw compressor to enable me to specify a replacement relief valve (compressor side). I have spoken to the compressor manufacturers and they have replied in simple terms to "install a 1/2" NPT device", with no justification and no mention of orifice size!
I am not safisfied with this and need to apply some chem eng.
Can someone advise regarding a method for determining the discharge capacity in this scenario?
Is this simply a function of the swept volume?
Info
- The compressor is in a chilled water refrigeration system, using R407c
- The system design pressure is known, ~30barg
- Relief temperature can be determined from a mollier (p-h) diagram as can specific volume at the relief valve set-point 27.5 barg
- compressor swept volume can be determined (volume x no. of rotations)
I have found a method in BS 13136
Q (kg/h) =60 x V x n x phi x vol eff
V=vol (m3)
n=rotational freq (1/min)
phi = density of heat flow rate (KW/m2)
Volumetric efficiency, est = 0.9
Can someone explain what the flux term refers to?
I can't for the life of me balance the units to give a mass flow either!
I have found a more simple method in ASHRAE 15 that consists simply of the swept volume, volumetric efficieny, density and an actuated minimum flow setting (not applicable in this case). This method makes sense and the units balance!
Can someone confirm from their experience which methods they would use to determine the discharge capacity?
Do I need to take into account anything else in the scenario development other than valve closed?
Also, could the temperatures be effected in another way? I am currently assuming the temperature to be based on saturated vapour temp at relief pressure (from p-h diagram). I have read in ASHRAE that compressor suction temp should be assumed to be 10deg C - how does this come into the calculation?!
Thanks in advance
Ian
I am currently trying to determine the discharge capacity for the scenario of blocked outlet (closed valve) of a screw compressor to enable me to specify a replacement relief valve (compressor side). I have spoken to the compressor manufacturers and they have replied in simple terms to "install a 1/2" NPT device", with no justification and no mention of orifice size!
I am not safisfied with this and need to apply some chem eng.
Can someone advise regarding a method for determining the discharge capacity in this scenario?
Is this simply a function of the swept volume?
Info
- The compressor is in a chilled water refrigeration system, using R407c
- The system design pressure is known, ~30barg
- Relief temperature can be determined from a mollier (p-h) diagram as can specific volume at the relief valve set-point 27.5 barg
- compressor swept volume can be determined (volume x no. of rotations)
I have found a method in BS 13136
Q (kg/h) =60 x V x n x phi x vol eff
V=vol (m3)
n=rotational freq (1/min)
phi = density of heat flow rate (KW/m2)
Volumetric efficiency, est = 0.9
Can someone explain what the flux term refers to?
I can't for the life of me balance the units to give a mass flow either!
I have found a more simple method in ASHRAE 15 that consists simply of the swept volume, volumetric efficieny, density and an actuated minimum flow setting (not applicable in this case). This method makes sense and the units balance!
Can someone confirm from their experience which methods they would use to determine the discharge capacity?
Do I need to take into account anything else in the scenario development other than valve closed?
Also, could the temperatures be effected in another way? I am currently assuming the temperature to be based on saturated vapour temp at relief pressure (from p-h diagram). I have read in ASHRAE that compressor suction temp should be assumed to be 10deg C - how does this come into the calculation?!
Thanks in advance
Ian