moment welds to HSS with multiple WF beam sizes 6

[redbone7]

As a fabricator I've been given detail (notes only) for multiple sized WF beams w/moment welds to a HSS column with procedure noted as cut, add continuity plate, splice col. however multiple sized beams seems to make this crazy to me

 

[driftLimiter]

There is no detail but it sounds like this is what your talking about.

Except that there are multiple beams framing at the same elevation and they are of different depths.

Is that what your thinking this is as well??

We have the ability shim between the plates for bolted or welded connections, but there are limitations to that thickness.

 

[DaveAtkins]

It will be an expensive detail, but I think the EOR wants multiple through plates, one at the top flange of all of the beams, and one at the bottom flange of each beam.

DaveAtkins

 

[KootK]

It seems a little crazy to me too. Hopefully there's a good reason for it rather than just optimizing beam weight at the expense of connection cost.

If you have the latitude to do so, it might advantageous to shift the locations of the splicing around to be better suit fabricaton. See one option below. This, admittedly, probably make the column less friendly to ship.

 

[DrZoidberWoop]

You can weld a WT or filler plate to the bottom of the shallow beam to make it roughly align with the deeper beam.

 

[lexpatrie]

Wow. 1980s much?

 

[dik]

Can you run the steel beam over the column and put a small cantilever on the beam? How much of a moment on the end?

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-Dik

 

[SteelTubes]

This article offers some cost-effective alternates to through plate moment connections:

https://steeltubeinstitute.org/reso...-effective-hss-specification-and-fabrication/

 

[dik]

You should consider joining the STI. The membership is very reasonable and the informatiion/material available is excellent.

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-Dik

 

[redbone7]

SteelTubes, thank you for the article reference. Thank you.

 

[redbone7]

dik, thank you for your advice. Resources are everything. Thanks