trimboy
Automotive
- Mar 23, 2006
- 7
Still struggling with v5 and have come to the conclusion that creating a section layout is very time consuming, if not nearly impossible. Have spoken to lots of people here "in the know" and they all have suggested that you don't need to create sections for anything! Just create the model in 3D and then if there are problems, it can be modified.
My question has been to all of these people - how do you know how a complex part such as a door trim is constructed without sections? They all have said that a 3D model is better than a section model for packaging. Now this goes against everything I know about engineering - even the most basic model is started with a section.
Went to see a guy yesterday and he showed me a fantastic model he has made, all linked with parameters so you can change one bit and all the rest of the assy follows - however, when asked how he set it up in the first place, he showed me a section on a piece of paper that he had used!(he got this from someone else).
Is there some kind of conspiracy going on here, as everyone I have asked seems to have made models once the basic design has been sorted out - no one has actually produced the section themselves from which they have been working! Apparently, as this guy said yesterday "you know what the section is going to be so you don't have to produce it" - what if you don't know what it will be? These people are all saying the same, like they've had their brains taken out!
This is proving very tiresome, as we have an A surface and need to do feasibility sections for technical input to design - we can't model parts in 3D with a surface that may not be in the right place, only to find that the surface is wrong and has to change once we have done the 3D models! By then the A surface will be frozen and can not be changed.
I have started to doubt my own engineering experience here as I can not visualize how parts go together just by looking at a surface and then starting a 3D model. It feels like I am surrounded by guys here who have no real engineering experience, and they all have the same mindset. Talking to some guys on the body group, they say they never use sections, even in V4, but their parts seem to be simpler - I can't believe this!!!
Advice, anyone.........?
Thanks,
My question has been to all of these people - how do you know how a complex part such as a door trim is constructed without sections? They all have said that a 3D model is better than a section model for packaging. Now this goes against everything I know about engineering - even the most basic model is started with a section.
Went to see a guy yesterday and he showed me a fantastic model he has made, all linked with parameters so you can change one bit and all the rest of the assy follows - however, when asked how he set it up in the first place, he showed me a section on a piece of paper that he had used!(he got this from someone else).
Is there some kind of conspiracy going on here, as everyone I have asked seems to have made models once the basic design has been sorted out - no one has actually produced the section themselves from which they have been working! Apparently, as this guy said yesterday "you know what the section is going to be so you don't have to produce it" - what if you don't know what it will be? These people are all saying the same, like they've had their brains taken out!
This is proving very tiresome, as we have an A surface and need to do feasibility sections for technical input to design - we can't model parts in 3D with a surface that may not be in the right place, only to find that the surface is wrong and has to change once we have done the 3D models! By then the A surface will be frozen and can not be changed.
I have started to doubt my own engineering experience here as I can not visualize how parts go together just by looking at a surface and then starting a 3D model. It feels like I am surrounded by guys here who have no real engineering experience, and they all have the same mindset. Talking to some guys on the body group, they say they never use sections, even in V4, but their parts seem to be simpler - I can't believe this!!!
Advice, anyone.........?
Thanks,