New user training question 1

[NXMold]

About a third of the way down this page

http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=136800&page=1

HellBent makes the comment "Unfortunately they don't teach you the "efficient" way to do things in the training classes and most never do figure them out."

I'm a mold designer new to UG NX5, previously I used Pro-E 2001. I'd guess I have 14,000 hours or so with that program, which was plenty of time to learn techniques and tricks, though I by no means came close to mastering it. I've seen how much you can be oblivious too even after many years of usage.

I've taken an introductory UG class [I think they called it intermediate!?] and am certainly able to do my job at this point, but I'm nowhere, NOWHERE near the user I'd like to be. Class offerings from UG at this point leave me feeling neglected, I don't see much on the offering block that fits what I need.

I need to learn the advanced features, nifty tricks, and some deeper theory about how this software operates... without losing productivity over the next 18 months or so while I figure much of it out on my own.

Where do I turn? There are no truly advanced users local to me. On site training from UG runs $375/hr, and I have no idea what credentials the instructor would have. Thats a hard pill to swallow.

 

[JohnRBaker]

In addition to this sight, which offers an opportunity to learn additional techniques, I would also consider looking into the Siemens PLM Software BBS (contact GTAC and they can get you set up). Also take a look at the PLM World website (

http://www.PLMWorld.org

) as they also offer a site where users can post and exchange tips and techniques.


John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
NX Design
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA

http://www.siemens.com/plm

http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

 

[hudson888]

You could try

http://www.myigetit.com

we have used them in the past for training other than UG, and it seemed okay, which is to say that being experienced in UG I would find it difficult to judge on that basis.

I have been training a few new users again lately, and find that you can make good use of CAST where required. I think it will be a small extra cost to license it from Siemens, but if you're a bit of a self starter you'll do well with it. We generally cook up some of our own exercises in basic problem solving to build their experience near the end of our in house courses. My advice is that there is no replacement for experience but NX presents you with a competent set of tools that can be used to model pretty much anything you're likely to think of. Having said that training comes in two parts, knowing what the tools do, and learning problem solving strategies to put your ideas into action. You need to know the first to tackle the second, and training takes you that far, you'll need experience and/or mentoring to complete the journey.

I'm talking mainly about modeling, drafting is a more proscribed discipline, and to some extent so is machining, but experience still counts. The one area that occasionally provides challenges for even the most experienced users is free form surface modeling. I have never even seen it taught really well in NX which is a pity, because you can produce a really decent result if you manage to find out enough about the black art of secret surfacing knowledge to make a go of it.

Life would be boring if you couldn't learn anything. I hope you enjoy the challenge.

Best Regards

Hudson

 

[NXMold]

Thanks, and I am enjoying the challenge. I guess I'll collect my questions and fire off a few at a time in a new thread. Aside from the forums, are the user groups, seminars, etc?

 

[JohnRBaker]

As for regional and international Users Group Meetings see the PLM World website at:

http://www.PLMWorld.org

For upcoming 'webinars', go to:

http://www.plm.automation.siemens.com/about_us/events_webinars/

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
NX Design
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA

http://www.siemens.com/plm

http://www.plmworld.org/museum/