NFPA 13 TIA 10-01 = Antifreeze ban in dwelling units

[pipesnpumps]

For anyone using NFPA 13-2010 (government work), this is hot off the press; anitfreeze continues to get a bad rap around cooking fires:

NFPA 13, 2010 version, TIA 10-01, effective date 8/25/10
1. Add a new section 7.6.1 as follows:

7.6.1 Dwelling Units. Antifreeze shall not be permitted to be used within the dwelling unit portions of sprinkler systems.

2. Renumber the remainder of the section accordingly.

 

[NJ1]

I wonder if this will also be enforced with any systems. It sounds that the problem is when used where cooking is present. Is that right?

 

[stookeyfpe]

Its is issue with atomizing of ethylene glycol and its a good call.

 

[cdafd]

We are tapoint one maybe two fires?? And we scrub anti freeze because of this????


Seems like there can be some other measures to take before scrubbing all together???

If it happens in homes then why isn't anti freeze scrubbed all together if it contributes to the fire????

 

[pipesnpumps]

cdafd, there have been some explosions and real fires. But the main this is recently a series of tests were performed. Some really smart people looked at the test data, and they made the call..

I for one am very impressed with NFPA's approach as an organization, using both statistics and research/testing. Getting fire-safe cigarettes in all 50 states which is starting to reap huge dividends, lowest number of home fire deaths ever in some cities in the Northeast.

This is another example of NFPA putting in the research, considering everything, and then making the right call.

If you want to debate the issues read this first:

http://www.nfpa.org/assets/files//PDF/Research/RFAntifreezeSprinklerSystemPh2.pdf

 

[cdafd]

Interesting read

But it seems that anti freeze can still be used just limit the solution level????


The other question is this going to kill sprinklers in homes??? Or do we go to dry pipe???


How about 13r in apartments???

 

[TravisMack]

You can still:

1- place pipe under insulation to keep it from freezing
2- Route piping inside of walls and heated areas to prevent freezing
3- Use the new Tyco Dry residential sprinklers.

Travis Mack
MFP Design, LLC

http://www.mfpdesign.com

 

[cdafd]

well I guess I answered my own question::::

3.3.7 Dwelling Unit. One or more rooms arranged for the use of one or more individuals living together, as in a single housekeeping unit normally having cooking, living, sanitary, and sleeping facilities. For purposes of this standard, dwelling unit includes hotel rooms, dormitory rooms, apartments, condominiums, sleeping rooms in nursing homes, and similar living units.

 

[cdafd]

seems to exclude alot of places, even thought they may not be cooking

 

[cdafd]

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TECHNICAL ALERT
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August 18, 2010

NFPA Issues Standards Council Decision on Antifreeze Systems in Residential Occupancies

August 16, 2010, the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) Standards Council issued a decision on the proposed Tentative Interim Amendments regarding antifreeze in residential fire sprinkler systems. The council’s decision is to “… prohibit the use of antifreeze solutions within all NFPA 13D applications and within the dwelling unit portions of NFPA 13 and NFPA 13R sprinkler systems.”

However, the Standards Council also directed that the responsible technical committees conduct further activities in regard to this question.

As identified in the “AFSA Member Alert” sent July 7, NFPA issued a safety alert on antifreeze in residential systems July 6, 2010, following a research study and an initial set of fire tests after a fire incident raised concern.

At it’s August 3-5 meeting, The NFPA Standards Council considered six tentative interim amendments (TIAs), two for each standard – NFPA 13, 13R, and 13D. One TIA said antifreeze shall not be used in dwelling units and the other restricted all antifreeze compounds to a maximum concentration of 50%. As a result of that meeting, the Standards Council has released TIAs 1000 on NFPA 13, 995 on NFPA 13R, and 994 on NFPA 13D effectively stating antifreeze shall not be used in dwelling units.

Investigation Continues
As indicated in the Council decision, this should be viewed as a moratorium. The Council urged the technical committees to address this issue again prior to the next Council meeting in Oct 2010. The Council also made a point of emphasizing that releasing these TIAs is not intended to be the final technical determination on whether antifreeze should be allowed or at what concentration nor is it intended to prejudge the merit of any further revisions. The fact that the report from the Fire Protection Research Foundation (FPRF) titled "Antifreeze Solutions in Home Fire Sprinkler Systems: Phase II Research Interim Report" (2010) was not available to the technical committees prior to their balloting on the TIAs had a significant impact on how this issue developed. Due to the emergency nature of this issue though, the Council had to act. Since it is inappropriate for the Council to modify an existing TIA or to write a new one, they took the most conservative approach and released the TIAs. The decision by the Council, the FPRF report and the TIAs are available at

http://www.nfpa.org/antifreeze.

The FPRF report identified that concentrations exceeding 50% by volume for glycerin and 40% for propylene glycol were not appropriate for use in residential sprinkler systems. One of the questions that the technical committees have to answer in defining a maximum concentration is how large a safety factor is necessary.

AFSA will continue to work closely with NFPA and keep you informed on future developments. Complete information is available from NFPA at

http://www.nfpa.org/antifreeze.

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