NX - The 50-50-90 rule?

[ROK99]

* Caution, this is pure whining - but want to know what other users think. Can Siemens put more effort into intuitiveness?

The 50-50-90% rule with NX is that when an operation is binary in nature (50-50%) NX will 90% of the time pick the option I don't want. Does anyone else see this?

One example: Many times making a counterbore hole, NX picks the vector away from material. How do you put a hole into air? Until I explicitly choose a vector (obviously going into the material) it won't put the hole in.

Many operations in NX work this way. We keep thinking this will get better, but we're on NX 9 and it drives users crazy.

Thoughts?

 

[JNieman]

I don't know that I've run into this. I run into it with extruding closed sketch profiles, but I always assumed that I wasn't picking a sketch normal vector correctly or something, and didn't care enough to investigate.

I can honestly not remember a single time it picked the wrong direction for a hole feature. I'm on NX8 for now until we get NX10 deployed.

 

[Toost]

It's ok to whine sometimes.
But, In the case of "Hole" features, there must be something wrong with either how you do this , or your settings.
Because :
All solid models consist of "surfaces" and what makes the surfaces a "solid body" is that there is a scheme which "knows" all about the surfaces, the edges, the vertices, which face is next to which etc etc,
AND, ALL face normal's points consistently OUT. - This way the system knows which side of a face is the inside of the body.

When somebody wrote the code for the Hole feature , He/She knew that if you pick a point ON a face, the default drilling direction is the opposite of the face normal.
If that point isn't on a face, then it might be 50/50, and as you say 90% wrong...
Do your points "sit ON the face" such that the point/the pick will return the specific face to NX ?

Regards,
Tomas