NX4 problems in windows 7 x64 1

[sll88]

Hello, I NX4 version does not work well on Windows 7 x64, when I pass the mouse over a figure, all surfaces and takes a long time to finish select are selected, this happens to me with the graphics drivers that puts Windows default .

If I upgrade the graphics drivers to the latest version, it does not, but then when I throw a reproduction machining draws slowly moves.

We have tested three graphs:

Integrated intel 4600
Nvidia 8400GS
Nvidia 8800GT

With all three have the same problems.

Does anyone know how to solve these problems?, Windows XP so far we had no problems.

Thank you very much.

 

[cowski]

Upgrade NX to a newer version or use an OS that NX 4 is certified to run on...

www.nxjournaling.com

 

[sll88]

But I need to work with version NX4, I'll try to have Windows 7 x86 if it works better?, And if Windows XP

Thank you.

 

[looslib]

NX versions areonly certified to work with certain OS versions.
They must be paired or you get problems.
I doubt Windows 7-32 will help as it is also not certified for NX4.
Your best solution is to build a xp-32 box.


"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."

Ben Loosli

 

[JohnRBaker]

WHY MUST YOU CONTINUE TO WORK WITH NX 4.0? If it's because you've not paid your maintenance, well that's an issue for which there is often no easy technical solution.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

[Arkance/PhoeNX]

Seen this before a number of times with customers still wanting to stay on NX4 for whatever reason.
There is NO solution for Windows 7 that will be satisfactory.
Graphics drivers may work somtimes, but I've never seen them fix the problem permanently, issues always arise.
Also your graphics cards are gaming not workstation cards and the Intel HD is the worst possible graphics chip to use with NX.

Your only option is to use Windows XP as that's what NX4 is designed for, or update to a version of NX designed for Windows 7.



Anthony Galante
Senior Support Engineer

NX5.0.6, NX6.0.5, NX7.5.5, NX8.0.0 -> NX8.0.3.4
NX8.5.0.23 -> NX8.5.2.3 & NX9.0.0.19

 

[joycejo]

I still have NX4 on a HP Z400 64 bit
with a NVIDIA Quadro 2000
I works fine No graphics issues.

Although I only use it for some legacy files that we will be moving to NX7.5 in the future



John Joyce
N.C. Programming Supervisor
Barnes Aerospace, Windsor CT
NX6, NX7.5 & NX8.5
Vericut7.2.3

 

[HercalloY]

sll88,

I'd highly suggest a graphics card change to at least the lowest entry level "pro" card (probably NVIDIA being your best bet). i hate suggesting this (because i loathe the whole fake/forced "pro-cards-cost-more-then-they-should-coz-oh-its-the-drivers-bro BS!) but in your case its probably a good thing to try to alleviate your issue. I have a Quadro 4000 and i still get issues with "fully qualified" software with these oh-so-pro-expensive-and-qualified-drivers-and-hardware.

**

"upgrade your version of NX". Like as if it was a free download... come on guys, i expected a more honorable response from you guys! Not everyone has an unlimited pit of money to spend on a hope for a bug fix. It's not just another file copy operation=sale for some of us! And more obviously... often its not even our choice (because you know we would if we had the actual chance).

 

[JohnRBaker]

If you keep your maintenance agreement up-to-date, you will not only get your bug fixes but also the new versions of NX as they are released. What's so complicated about that? And if someone doesn't have a maintenance agreement it might be appropriate to start asking how and when it was that the OP got his copy of NX 4.0, a version that was released almost 10 years ago. After all, this is the only entries he's ever posted on Eng-Tips (he just registered yesterday). And he's not yet explained why he can't use anything other than NX 4.0. We only assume that he has let his maintenance agreement lapse. Perhaps he's NEVER had a maintenance agreement in the first place. I mean the hardware he's using, in addition to it feeling like some sort of 'gamer' configuration, is much newer then the software (the 'Integrated Intel 4600' has only been available for about 6 months or so).

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

[sll88]

Hello, first thank you all for your help. Let's try with Windows XP or will buy some nvidia quadro, what would be the cheapest nvidia quadro model that would go well with NX4?

Thank you.

 

[looslib]

The Nvidia 8400GS was in my first laptop which was 7 years ago. It is not a CAD level card.

Try any Quadro level card, not a GeForce one.



"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."

Ben Loosli

 

[Toost]

To compliment what Ben says above,
Try any Quadro card BUT stay away from the Quadro NVS cards!
- The NVS cards are not for 3D.

Regards,
Tomas

 

[sll88]

With that graphical models of quadro NX4 works well on windows 7 x64?
Thank you.

 

[JohnRBaker]

I still can't help but ask, why is that you can't upgrade to something newer than NX 4.0?

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Engineering Software
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

[looslib]

NX4 will not work well on any version of Windows 7 as it was released long before Windows 7.
CAD programs are not like Office were you can upgrade the OS and keep using an older application. The application is designed with certain OS requirements.

NX4 needs to be installed on WinXP-32 on a computer with a Nvidia Quadro graphics card. IF you have the 64-bit version of NX4, then XP-64 could be used.

You still haven't answered WHY you cannot run a newer version of NX?


"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."

Ben Loosli

 

[wmalan]

"You still haven't answered WHY you cannot run a newer version of NX?"

I think we know the answer... Btw, I felt bad having been on NX6 till end of last year. Now on 8.5, it's way cool!
Bill

 

[looslib]

Let's hope it is a corporate decision to be cheap rather than a case of illegal licenses.



"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."

Ben Loosli