NX4 PROMOTIONS: LOSS OF ASSOCIATIVITY TO COMPONENT

[tooldeziner]

I am using Promotion for the first time. Here is the problem: I promoted a component, added a hole at assembly level, then went back to the component part file and edited the component parametrically. The promotion doesn't reflect the change, won't update. Is this normal? It doesn't seem right that the parent no longer controls.

'ziner

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[Xwheelguy]

First, do you have Delay Interpart Update checked in your Customer Defaults under Assemblies? If so, uncheck it and restart NX and see if the component will update. If not, then check your Assembly Update Report for starters.

I just made a block in one part file, dropped into a new part as a component, promoted it, put a hole in it, then went back and changed the dimensions of the block and everything worked fine for me. I'd say you have a setting not set correctly or need to install a MP or MR, off the top of my head.

Tim Flater
Senior Designer
Enkei America, Inc.

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[JohnRBaker]

Alos make sure that someone hasn't manually broken to the link the parent part.


John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
NX Product Line
UGS Corp
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[tooldeziner]

Tim and John,
Thanks for the responses.

Tim, I checked the delay update. Also restarted the application. That isn't the problem. I also went to another facility and re-created the part, promotion, etc. just as you did. And the result was the same as yours. No problem with associativity.

John, the part has not been touched by anyone else. However, I did notice immediately upon creation of the promotion, the icon in the Part Navigator looked like a broken link. After I performed the first operation on the promotion, the icon changed to look normal.

Could it be something the administrators have configured, perhaps disabling promotions?

Thanks again for your response.
'ziner

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[JohnRBaker]

There is an option in Customer Default to disable Interpart Modleing, which Promotions is part of. Note that I've never run on a system that had this switch set to OFF (disallow Interpart Modeling) so I don't know how it behaves, however I would expect it just to give you a warning if you attempted to use any Interpart Modeling operation, that it was not available and would not allow you to continue.


John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
NX Product Line
UGS Corp
Cypress, CA

http://www.ugs.com

http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

 

[tooldeziner]

Thanks, John.
I checked Customer Defaults, Assemblies, General, Interpart Modeling: "Allow Interpart Modeling" is checked, "Allow Feature Promotion" is checked "Delay Interpart Update" is unchecked.
Is there any other setting that could affect Promotions?

Thanks again,
'ziner

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[JohnRBaker]

That's the way my Customer Defaults are set and it works just fine.


John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
NX Product Line
UGS Corp
Cypress, CA

http://www.ugs.com

http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

 

[Xwheelguy]

What does the Assembly Update Report look like? It should indicate any issues with the assembly.

Tim Flater
Senior Designer
Enkei America, Inc.

http://www.enkei.com

Some people are like slinkies....they don't really have a purpose, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.

 

[tooldeziner]

Hi Tim,
First some info, the assembly tree is structured in 3 tiers: child nodes go into top model assy node, top model assy node goes into drawing file.
The assembly update report shows all 1's at the top model assy level. At the drawing level it shows the top model as a 2 and the children below the top model as 1's.
I did a structure update, but nothing in the report changed afterward.

Thanks for your interest.
'ziner

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[JohnRBaker]

Are you using Reference Sets at the assembly level? If you are make sure that you're not 'filtering' out the components with one of those Reference Sets. By filtering I mean that if you are creating Reference Sets of assemblies and you leave a component out it's like it neve been there. Generally speaking, it's safer to not create Reference Sets of assemblies, but limit them to piece parts.


John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
NX Product Line
UGS Corp
Cypress, CA

http://www.ugs.com

http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

 

[tooldeziner]

The administrator's have made the "Model" reference set the default. No matter how you saved the file(s) previously, it will always open with the Model reference set active. All parts that need to show in the drawing have to be in the Model ref set. The part that I promoted is in the Model ref set, but doesn't show because it has been promoted. If I delete the promotion, then the part shows immediately.

Thanks for your interest.
'ziner.

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