Pervious Pavement CN Values

[LAHJR]

Logic tells me that if we use pervious pavement for a passive application that the CN value should be the same as the subgrade. That is, if the pervious pavement section uses the insitu material for subgrade then the CN value should be the same for both pre and post development. Is this a logical assumption and if so, is there some published, accepted material that can be referenced?

Thanks in advance.

Les

 

[beej67]

Subgrades aren't really assigned CNs. B soils under good condition woods have a different CN than B soils under poor grass cover.

I've used several different approaches for modeling pervious pavement, that vary with the pavement section, the application, and the reviewer. I highly recommend talking to your review agency first and finding out how they want it modeled, because however you choose to do it now won't matter when you submit for review if they want it done differently.

In the City of Atlanta for instance, you're allowed to use it, but you must model it as regular pavement. (so basically there's no point in using it) Their rationale is they have no guarantee the owner won't pave over it later. In other areas I've been required to use it, and take credit for it in the water quality model, but not take credit for it in the hydrology model.

For the cases where I've taken some credit for it in the hydrology model, I've usually either called it gravel, or I've adjusted my initial abstraction to include an additional birdbath effect, or I've treated it as a storage/routing device.



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[yuanyelss]

I highly recommend talking to your review agency first and finding out how they want it modeled, because however you choose to do it now won't matter when you submit for review if they want it done differently.

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