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ColonelSanders83
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Thanks for the update, I can't wait to get my hands on a copy!
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Hello,
L.C. Peng's (and T.L. Peng's) new book is comprehensive. There is nothing "simplified" about the book. It is a good balance between the theoretical and the practical. It is very up-to-date in a world where "yesterday" is not enough.
So much has been learned about piping engineering over the last 50 years (the Kellogg book, "Design of Piping Systems", is 50 years old now) and so much of his new knowledge is spread around so many volumes that it is hard to find it all. L.C. Peng's book, "Pipe Stress Engineering" is 486 pages and there is NOTHING trivial to be found on any of those pages. This book is NOT a guide (not to trivialize guides - there are at least two excellent guides available). It is a learning/teaching aid and as such the student (and I hope that includes all of us) MUST read it from cover to cover several times. As you learn, the more you will understand in the next reading. It is not fair to compare this book to the Kellogg book, it so far surpasses the Kellogg book in content that there can be NO comparison. This is NOT to trivialize the Kellogg book - THAT has been the gold standard for 50 years. It is just that there is now a NEW gold standard.
By the way, did I remember to say that I LIKE this book?.
Regards, John
L.C. Peng's (and T.L. Peng's) new book is comprehensive. There is nothing "simplified" about the book. It is a good balance between the theoretical and the practical. It is very up-to-date in a world where "yesterday" is not enough.
So much has been learned about piping engineering over the last 50 years (the Kellogg book, "Design of Piping Systems", is 50 years old now) and so much of his new knowledge is spread around so many volumes that it is hard to find it all. L.C. Peng's book, "Pipe Stress Engineering" is 486 pages and there is NOTHING trivial to be found on any of those pages. This book is NOT a guide (not to trivialize guides - there are at least two excellent guides available). It is a learning/teaching aid and as such the student (and I hope that includes all of us) MUST read it from cover to cover several times. As you learn, the more you will understand in the next reading. It is not fair to compare this book to the Kellogg book, it so far surpasses the Kellogg book in content that there can be NO comparison. This is NOT to trivialize the Kellogg book - THAT has been the gold standard for 50 years. It is just that there is now a NEW gold standard.
By the way, did I remember to say that I LIKE this book?.
Regards, John
John,
Just looking at the table of contents suggests this is make for a pretty comprehensive textbook quality guide for pipe stress engineers. Definitely looks promising.
Edward L. Klein
Pipe Stress Engineer
Houston, Texas
"All the world is a Spring"
All opinions expressed here are my own and not my company's.
Just looking at the table of contents suggests this is make for a pretty comprehensive textbook quality guide for pipe stress engineers. Definitely looks promising.
Edward L. Klein
Pipe Stress Engineer
Houston, Texas
"All the world is a Spring"
All opinions expressed here are my own and not my company's.
racookpe1978
Nuclear
OK - So back me up. I've got a very old version of the Kellogg book. Their nuclear valve division doesn't have new copies available, so how can we order the latest?
Ebay?
Ebay?
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racookpe1978
What is it you are asking for?
The old M.W. Kellogg book "Design of Piping Systems" is all over the Internet now. It has been out of print since about 1965. Email somebody and ask for it.
If you want to purchase a copy of the great new L. C. Peng Book, "Pipe Stress Engineering" go to the ASME site and LOOK AT THE TABLE OF CONTENTS - then buy it if it suits your needs.
What is it you are asking for?
The old M.W. Kellogg book "Design of Piping Systems" is all over the Internet now. It has been out of print since about 1965. Email somebody and ask for it.
If you want to purchase a copy of the great new L. C. Peng Book, "Pipe Stress Engineering" go to the ASME site and LOOK AT THE TABLE OF CONTENTS - then buy it if it suits your needs.
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racookpe1978
Nuclear
Thank you John. I appreciate the advice.
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SOROURA,
"Pipe Stress Engineering" is for everybody who aspires to be a knowledgeable piping engineer. For the "beginner", the first read through the book will take more time but the Pengs do include basic concepts so it will not "lose you". But even after you have a few years "under your belt" you will continue to find this book helpful. This book will still be a good reference book even when you have read it five or more times - you may not remember everything that your read by then but you will remember where you can find the information. Take a look at the table of contents on the ASME web site.
Regards, John.
"Pipe Stress Engineering" is for everybody who aspires to be a knowledgeable piping engineer. For the "beginner", the first read through the book will take more time but the Pengs do include basic concepts so it will not "lose you". But even after you have a few years "under your belt" you will continue to find this book helpful. This book will still be a good reference book even when you have read it five or more times - you may not remember everything that your read by then but you will remember where you can find the information. Take a look at the table of contents on the ASME web site.
Regards, John.
John,
With your recommendation, and that of my boss who employed Mr. Peng earlier in his career, several of us in my company got together and did a group purchase. I got my copy a few days ago.
I agree that this is a landmark piece of work. While nothing can replace working with an experienced mentor, this book will go a long way to raising the quality of stress work for those who make the investment in their careers and get this book for themselves.
Edward L. Klein
Pipe Stress Engineer
Houston, Texas
"All the world is a Spring"
All opinions expressed here are my own and not my company's.
With your recommendation, and that of my boss who employed Mr. Peng earlier in his career, several of us in my company got together and did a group purchase. I got my copy a few days ago.
I agree that this is a landmark piece of work. While nothing can replace working with an experienced mentor, this book will go a long way to raising the quality of stress work for those who make the investment in their careers and get this book for themselves.
Edward L. Klein
Pipe Stress Engineer
Houston, Texas
"All the world is a Spring"
All opinions expressed here are my own and not my company's.
John,
I have a question. I have just been reading the section on Code Stress Requirements and in particular the paragraph on Page 123 with some interest. The paragraph seems to say that to calculate the displacement stress range Se you have to calculate the stress range due to thermal effects (including any anchor displacements) and then add the amplitude of the stress range calculated due to seismic anchor movements. If this combined stress is greater than the stress range due to seismic anchor movements then this should be compared with the Code Sa value. If not then the stress range due to the seismic anchor movements should be compared with the Code Sa.
There is no implicit mention of this within the Code as far as I can see. Is this paragraph correct and aligned with the Code?
Regards
DSB123
I have a question. I have just been reading the section on Code Stress Requirements and in particular the paragraph on Page 123 with some interest. The paragraph seems to say that to calculate the displacement stress range Se you have to calculate the stress range due to thermal effects (including any anchor displacements) and then add the amplitude of the stress range calculated due to seismic anchor movements. If this combined stress is greater than the stress range due to seismic anchor movements then this should be compared with the Code Sa value. If not then the stress range due to the seismic anchor movements should be compared with the Code Sa.
There is no implicit mention of this within the Code as far as I can see. Is this paragraph correct and aligned with the Code?
Regards
DSB123
Hurricanes
Mechanical
My copy arrived over the weekend. I have nly had a chance to skim through it so far, but it looks like it has lived up to the hype. I bought the book largely based upon what was said on this thread.
Thank you John for bringing this book to my attention.
Thank you John for bringing this book to my attention.
JohnBreen,
A little off topic.
Did either L.C or T.L. Peng write the piping stress analysis software "Pipe Plus"?
The was the first software to effectvely use offsets to describe the pipng system. This was later sold to Algor.
There was also an engineer named Peng who worked in Monsanto Central Engineering that we worked with on piping.
A little off topic.
Did either L.C or T.L. Peng write the piping stress analysis software "Pipe Plus"?
The was the first software to effectvely use offsets to describe the pipng system. This was later sold to Algor.
There was also an engineer named Peng who worked in Monsanto Central Engineering that we worked with on piping.
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