Plant roads.. always straight..? 1

[jamesbanda]

Dear All,

This shouds like a really odd question but.. some background..

On one of my projects a large project. our layout group have modified the layout to incorporate new processes but to do that we need to have a beNd in the road TO meet seperation distances and accomndate equipment..

the plant civils are fixed ie we need the bend we cannot change other things..

This bend would be basically a dog leg.. between two large areas..so..

has anyone ever seen a bent road between plant areas.. ?

we need to put in bollards to prevent vehicale impact on plant equipment. etc..

 

[pennpiper]

A "Bend" in a plant road is not desirable but it is not unusual.
Something to look at is the largest piece of new equipment (vessel) or largest crane you will need to take down that road during construction.

 

[rmw]

Or during future maintenance or equipment replacement.

rmw

 

[dcasto]

Bends create problems in moving large equipment, future expansions or pipe racks, and heck they just look bad. My question is why not change equipment seperation?

 

[BigInch]

I would think they should be straight, unless you have a reason to put a bend in them. I would consider running into an existing large diameter tank, or existing anything for that matter, running into a river or drainage area, hitting a unit or plant property boundary, running off or into a cliff, etc. would all be good ones in my book.

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[dtlb26]

Do whatever makes the most sense.

Bends can cause some concerns over plant traffic, equipment moving, laydown areas, etc.

The benefit sounds like it fits! Bends are also an excellent way of slowing down plant traffic and having people look for alternate routes.

 

[BigInch]

In a plant, I would think firing somebody would be an excellent way to control speed, .. much better than creating unnecessary difficulties for normal, emergency vehicle access or construction equipment.

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[jte]

In a plant, I would think firing somebody would be an excellent way to control speed, ..

Yes, that would be the logical approach... But since when did that matter? Much easier said than done in a real plant environment... As for what happens on the graveyard shift... Entirely different behavior from the day shift when management is around.

If possible, keep the roads straight, for all the reasons listed above. Having said that, of course, the world is not neatly laid out on a grid pattern. Deal with it as you see fit. Guard rails and bollards might be useful, but consider the spacing from road to equipment and how fast the folks are expected to be driving (figure 30 mph where the posted/plant limit is 15...).

jt

 

[BigInch]

One company I worked for equipped the security department with radars to catch the lease road speed limit violators. It worked!

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[europipe]

I know it's out of the original issue,
but can You fire Business customers too?