SocklessJ
Structural
- Aug 24, 2017
- 50
I’ll soon be designing an open steel tower to support a heavy reactor and other process equipment. The reactor is supported by the tower, via a support ring at its mid-height.
ASCE 7 states “where the mass of the operating vessel or vessels supported is greater than 25% of the total mass of the combined structures, the structure and vessel designs shall consider the effects of dynamic coupling between each other. Coupling with adjacent, connected structures such as multiple towers shall be considered if the structures are interconnected with elements that will transfer loads from one structure to the other.”
Some more questions I have are:
1. Do you know of any good references for design of process structures like this? I already have ASCE’s guides for seismic and wind design of petrochemical facilities.
2. Is a Modal Response Spectrum Analysis overkill? The location is SDC C, however due to heavy masses potential irregularities, ELF might not capture the response. Also, page 195 (item 6) of the ASCE petrochem guide recommends it. The biggest problem I see is combining the Direct Analysis Method with a MRSA. Some options might be:
3. How should I model the reactor to account for the coupling? I’m thinking a series of lumped masses connected by members with section properties matching that of the vessel shell. My guess is that it will want to rotate about its mid-height support level. This wouldn’t be captured if it was treated as a single lumped mass.
4. In addition to the reactor there will be other pieces of (lighter) connected equipment supported by the structure. Since this equipment will probably be <25% of the total mass, I assume it can be decoupled from the structural model and the mechanical engineer will simply provide reactions for the equipment, pipe supports, etc. Is this typically how it works?
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
ASCE 7 states “where the mass of the operating vessel or vessels supported is greater than 25% of the total mass of the combined structures, the structure and vessel designs shall consider the effects of dynamic coupling between each other. Coupling with adjacent, connected structures such as multiple towers shall be considered if the structures are interconnected with elements that will transfer loads from one structure to the other.”
Some more questions I have are:
1. Do you know of any good references for design of process structures like this? I already have ASCE’s guides for seismic and wind design of petrochemical facilities.
2. Is a Modal Response Spectrum Analysis overkill? The location is SDC C, however due to heavy masses potential irregularities, ELF might not capture the response. Also, page 195 (item 6) of the ASCE petrochem guide recommends it. The biggest problem I see is combining the Direct Analysis Method with a MRSA. Some options might be:
a. If a MRSA is not required by code, maybe I could do one separately without the P-D analysis, just as a gut check.
b. STAAD has an “Individual Modal Response” option, which will form a primary load case with scaled forces corresponding to each mode shape. I could try running a Direct Analysis for each mode (combined with dead load), SRSS the results, and code check that.
b. STAAD has an “Individual Modal Response” option, which will form a primary load case with scaled forces corresponding to each mode shape. I could try running a Direct Analysis for each mode (combined with dead load), SRSS the results, and code check that.
3. How should I model the reactor to account for the coupling? I’m thinking a series of lumped masses connected by members with section properties matching that of the vessel shell. My guess is that it will want to rotate about its mid-height support level. This wouldn’t be captured if it was treated as a single lumped mass.
4. In addition to the reactor there will be other pieces of (lighter) connected equipment supported by the structure. Since this equipment will probably be <25% of the total mass, I assume it can be decoupled from the structural model and the mechanical engineer will simply provide reactions for the equipment, pipe supports, etc. Is this typically how it works?
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.