NAH229
Mechanical
- Feb 23, 2012
- 1
thread161-24447
Hi,
I have designed a pump station pumping down hill similar to the above thread but it's smaller. What I found is there are two major system curves for this kind of PS:
1. Initial system curve using static head to highest intermediate point - positive static head.
2. Operating system curve: static head is head between wetwell reservoire elevation and discharge elevation - negative (assume it's steady state hydraulic condition).
It would be risky to select pump duty point using negative static head because the selected pump may fail to prime or pump head may exceed shutoff head, best selection is static head condition #1.
If you try to use WaterCAD or EPANET to solve this problem, the software will select condition #2 as default which is wrong in some cases. This problem should be calculated by traditional way: paper, pencil and calculator.
There two main issues pumping down hill:
1. Siphon after pump off. This can be controled by a VAC set at highest point should be near pump station. I would not worry about positive surge pressure but vacuum pressure that could collapse the forcemain downstream.
2. During pump running cycle: Hydraulic condition may not steady state because of collum separation toward downstream discharge. negative pressure near downstream discharge increases flow velocity downstream - corrosive conditon.
I think for a large flow rate, downstream piping should be reinforced to work with both corrosive and vacuum condition.
This kind of PS very common in mountainous areas where it's impossible or risky to build gravity sewer system. I'd appreciate any new experienced feeds for this matter, I'd like to learn more about it.
Thanks
NAH
PS. I appology to reopen this thread. Honestly, I'm still crazy with this problem - not much studies about this matter.
Hi,
I have designed a pump station pumping down hill similar to the above thread but it's smaller. What I found is there are two major system curves for this kind of PS:
1. Initial system curve using static head to highest intermediate point - positive static head.
2. Operating system curve: static head is head between wetwell reservoire elevation and discharge elevation - negative (assume it's steady state hydraulic condition).
It would be risky to select pump duty point using negative static head because the selected pump may fail to prime or pump head may exceed shutoff head, best selection is static head condition #1.
If you try to use WaterCAD or EPANET to solve this problem, the software will select condition #2 as default which is wrong in some cases. This problem should be calculated by traditional way: paper, pencil and calculator.
There two main issues pumping down hill:
1. Siphon after pump off. This can be controled by a VAC set at highest point should be near pump station. I would not worry about positive surge pressure but vacuum pressure that could collapse the forcemain downstream.
2. During pump running cycle: Hydraulic condition may not steady state because of collum separation toward downstream discharge. negative pressure near downstream discharge increases flow velocity downstream - corrosive conditon.
I think for a large flow rate, downstream piping should be reinforced to work with both corrosive and vacuum condition.
This kind of PS very common in mountainous areas where it's impossible or risky to build gravity sewer system. I'd appreciate any new experienced feeds for this matter, I'd like to learn more about it.
Thanks
NAH
PS. I appology to reopen this thread. Honestly, I'm still crazy with this problem - not much studies about this matter.