Reference Sets item count doesn't update correctly (NX6.0.1.5)

[potrero]

Has anyone noticed that the Reference Set item count doesn't update correctly when de-selecting components?

For instance, say you had a part with 4 subcomponents; by default the 'Model' Reference Set will show 4 objects. Oftentimes I've noticed that if you try de-selecting (Shift Select) components, the object count doesn't accurately reflect the remaining components. For instance, de-selecting all components should leave 0 members of the Reference Set, but the dialogue box still shows members.

If you exit the dialogue box, then re-enter (Format > Reference Sets), the number updates correctly. Argh.

 

[JohnRBaker]

Just to clarify this, when you say 'Components' are you saying components as in an Assembly?

However, I tested this using NX 6.0.2.8 and whether I'm creating Reference Sets in a master part file (non-assembly) where the selected items are bodies or curves, or in an Assembly where the selected items are components, de-selecting an item correctly updates the count as I remove and add items in real time. It's working exactly as one would expect it to.

John R. Baker, P.E.
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[potrero]

Yes, components as in an Assembly. The specific situation is one where a master file is assembled into another part (say, to provide WAVE-linked geometry etc). Since the Model reference set automatically adds components, the master part is, by default, included. Of course, if the non-master part is then added to another assembly, with ref set = Model, then the graphic display might get quite cluttered, since you'd be seeing both the geometry in the non-master as well as all the shown entities in the master file.

What I am experiencing is that if you try to de-select the master part from the Model ref set, the count only accurately updates after exiting out of the Reference Set dialogue, then re-opening it.

 

[JohnRBaker]

Hence the reason we try to discourage people from creating Assembly Reference Sets in the first place. We can't stop you from doing it, but we also are not going to lose any sleep over minor issues which only show up when doing something like that.

That being said, I would suggest that you contact GTAC and have them open an IR and see what developments thinks about this behavior, but as I've alluded to, don't hold your breath ;-)

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Cypress, CA

http://www.siemens.com/plm

http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

[hudson888]

I hate to use these words, but here goes, "It's a feature not a bug." The assembly has the same number of components in it regardless of which reference set you chose to display.

It seems that what is described is a case where somebody wishes to confuse what is displayed with the structure of the actual assembly tree. In that case I think it would be wrong and even misleading to display some reduced number of components on the basis that some are excluded from certain reference sets.

You can do things otherwise in parts lists but to argue that the ANT should be equivalent to a parts list while possibly quite useful is also possibly quite wrong and deceptive.

A sure way as John mentions to deliver yourself of that conundrum would be to not use assembly reference sets, then we might all sleep a bit better at night for not being confronted with trying to maintain other users occasionally quite Machiavellian schemes to create the assemblies that time forgot!

Best Regards

Hudson

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