jbkettler
Mechanical
- May 21, 2010
- 7
Hello - please be patient as this is my first post.
I am having trouble finding the basis for the required discharge capacity of a relief valve as stated in ASHRAE 15 (C=fDL). Are the D & L portions to reflect the vessel volume or the vessel surface area? I would initially think volume since that is what needs to be relieved, however there is a note in ASHRAE 15 below the equation that states the formula is based on fire conditions (possible surface area reference).
First - The reason I am inquiring is because I need to calculate the required discharge capacity for a Silo Jacket. I believe plugging in the D and L from the ASME U form will yield inaccurate results since the vessel is not of a cylindrical design - rather it is like a plate and frame heat exchanger. If I could find the basis of the equation (volume or surface area) I feel that I could justifiably calculate a required flow rate that is defensible. If someone has another approach please feel free to share.
Second - for the Silo Jackets that can not be isolated from their respective ammonia pressure vessels (accumulators), the equation seems inadequate for the volume of ammonia. For a normal plate and frame HX with a HX accumulator, the accumulator volume >> the HX volume and the RV is calculated from the vessel dimensions. On these Silo Jackets and Vessels, the volumes are very near each other and I think that calculating the RV capacity from the vessel dimensions would result in a significant error. This goes back into the - is it based on Volume or Surface Area question...any input or ideas?
I am having trouble finding the basis for the required discharge capacity of a relief valve as stated in ASHRAE 15 (C=fDL). Are the D & L portions to reflect the vessel volume or the vessel surface area? I would initially think volume since that is what needs to be relieved, however there is a note in ASHRAE 15 below the equation that states the formula is based on fire conditions (possible surface area reference).
First - The reason I am inquiring is because I need to calculate the required discharge capacity for a Silo Jacket. I believe plugging in the D and L from the ASME U form will yield inaccurate results since the vessel is not of a cylindrical design - rather it is like a plate and frame heat exchanger. If I could find the basis of the equation (volume or surface area) I feel that I could justifiably calculate a required flow rate that is defensible. If someone has another approach please feel free to share.
Second - for the Silo Jackets that can not be isolated from their respective ammonia pressure vessels (accumulators), the equation seems inadequate for the volume of ammonia. For a normal plate and frame HX with a HX accumulator, the accumulator volume >> the HX volume and the RV is calculated from the vessel dimensions. On these Silo Jackets and Vessels, the volumes are very near each other and I think that calculating the RV capacity from the vessel dimensions would result in a significant error. This goes back into the - is it based on Volume or Surface Area question...any input or ideas?