Requirement for NFPA 25 and log books on site.

[ContractorDave]

There does not appear to be a requirement for the building owner to maintain a copy of NFPA 25 or a log book on site in the 2008 edition. I see where records are to be maintained and made available to the AHJ. Even as I look back to the 2002 and 1998 edition I don't see this requirement, yet somehow I notice that this has been carried forward over the years from somewhere. See attached AFSA cover page, items 5 and 6 for example.

Regards
Dave

 

[ContractorDave]

I just received a call from NFPA and they state the obvious; that it would be somewhat of a conflict of interests to write the code and then determine that the code SHALL be maintained on site. This begs the question though - why did AFSA have it in their inspection reports where a "NO" is presumably a deficiency?

Regards
Dave

 

[NJ1]

The NFPA 13 requires that after a fire sprinkler installations is completed a copy of the NFPA 25 is left on site however during an annual NFPA 25 Fire Sprinkler Inspection it is not required to note on the report if a copy is present at the time of the inspection. You must understand that AFSA and NFSA are conflicting associations. For example:
AFSA is non-union
NFSA is union

AFSA has such requirement on reports
NFSA does not

AFSA does not requires to identify recall products on reports.
NFSA does

Bottom line the absence of a copy of NFPA 25 is not a deficiency
Recall products could cause systems not to perform as design.

Just recent a sprinkler contractor in NY was order to payback customer all money paid plus attorney's fees just because the contractor wrote such requirement as a deficiency when in fact it is not.

 

[ForestW]

NFPA 13 Overhead Acceptance form has for years required the conractor to give the owner a copy of NFPA 25, formally 13A.

That's why AFSA form asks for it, I assume.

Forest Wilson
Cherokee Fire