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- Apr 8, 2006
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Folks,
Recently there has been considerable debate in our office regarding whether the end spans/corner spans of post-tensioned flat slabs are classified as restrained or unrestrained.
Refer a similar thread thread507-164258
ASTM E-119 states that if the floor framing members are cast with the support members (I am assuming this refers to a fixed connection with rotational restraint?). However, there are a few articles (especially a PDH by StructureMag regarding PT slabs) that say that end spans are considered unrestrained (meaning that the concrete cover is 1.5" vs 0.75").
In researching I find that there is considerable redistribution of moments in continuous systems due to the fact that negative steel remains cool in comparison to positive steel. Also, there is a mention of tension membrane action. Intuitively, I feel that the corner/ exterior columns provide axial and rotational restraint to a PT slab regardless of the presence of spandrel beams, but how does one quantify it and present it to a Building Official or a Fire Marshall?
Does anyone have any experience in this regard for concrete buildings.
I note that a recent research (by Troup et al.) concludes that most typically framed (with simple end connections) steel buildings are considered as thermally restrained.
Thanks
Recently there has been considerable debate in our office regarding whether the end spans/corner spans of post-tensioned flat slabs are classified as restrained or unrestrained.
Refer a similar thread thread507-164258
ASTM E-119 states that if the floor framing members are cast with the support members (I am assuming this refers to a fixed connection with rotational restraint?). However, there are a few articles (especially a PDH by StructureMag regarding PT slabs) that say that end spans are considered unrestrained (meaning that the concrete cover is 1.5" vs 0.75").
In researching I find that there is considerable redistribution of moments in continuous systems due to the fact that negative steel remains cool in comparison to positive steel. Also, there is a mention of tension membrane action. Intuitively, I feel that the corner/ exterior columns provide axial and rotational restraint to a PT slab regardless of the presence of spandrel beams, but how does one quantify it and present it to a Building Official or a Fire Marshall?
Does anyone have any experience in this regard for concrete buildings.
I note that a recent research (by Troup et al.) concludes that most typically framed (with simple end connections) steel buildings are considered as thermally restrained.
Thanks