-
1
- #1
TiagoFigueiredo
Industrial
Anything similar in CATIA?
Tiago Figueiredo
Tooling Engineer
Youtube channel:
Tiago Figueiredo
Tooling Engineer
Youtube channel:
Eng-Tips is the largest engineering community on the Internet
Intelligent Work Forums for Engineering Professionals
-
Congratulations waross on being selected by the Eng-Tips community for having the most helpful posts in the forums last week. Way to Go!
Screws and pins 1
- Thread starter TiagoFigueiredo
- Start date
- Status
- Thread starter
- #3
TiagoFigueiredo
Industrial
that's really annoying... Dassault should focus on having more out of the box in CATIA. I know you can parametrize almost anything, but for the end user, there are hundred of hours to get everything right and productive!
Tiago Figueiredo
Tooling Engineer
Youtube channel:
Tiago Figueiredo
Tooling Engineer
Youtube channel:
jagodragon
Automotive
Each of the main softwares focus on different aspects.
As a result of this each software is best suited for different use cases.
Catia - Product design (if you have dedicated designers and shared components)
NX - Mechanical design such as tooling, fixturing, also can work well for product if you aren't using common components (file linking does not exist in NX and makes this impractical with out a PLM with PDM such as Teamcenter)
I know this is probably going to get me some hate, but there is a reason Catia cost far more than the rest and is still going strong... the models are better quality and there is nothing you can't do if you can do the setup that's required. NX is really only viable because it acquired IDEAS from Ford and bastardized its surface capabilities into their UG software that was failing (I cried when i heard this was their plan, Ideas needed work on their surface generating algorithm but other than that was the best software I have ever used). UG had no surface capabilities to speak of be for that. And Creo (I forget what it's name was before they rebranded) has always been off to the side while others fought for top spot. never great, never any better than good enough. they can be thought of like the generic brand of high end cad. they implament bits and pieces of what works on other systems in a fashion that is just good enough. and good for them! that business model works for them.
As a result of this each software is best suited for different use cases.
Catia - Product design (if you have dedicated designers and shared components)
NX - Mechanical design such as tooling, fixturing, also can work well for product if you aren't using common components (file linking does not exist in NX and makes this impractical with out a PLM with PDM such as Teamcenter)
NX does beat Catia in fastener implementation and that is the main driver for saying this is better for tooling. In catia you need a lot of set up to get your fastener library set up properly and then you have to place each individual fastener, bolt, and washer.
Creo - Design engineers who just want to make a concept sketch that needs to be redone in catia or nx before production. it's implementation of the neat tools make it so that I am yet to see some one make a clean model out of creo. every creo model that has come to me looking like it was done by some one who had no ide about actual parts and just needed a model that looked right in a cooperate meeting.I know this is probably going to get me some hate, but there is a reason Catia cost far more than the rest and is still going strong... the models are better quality and there is nothing you can't do if you can do the setup that's required. NX is really only viable because it acquired IDEAS from Ford and bastardized its surface capabilities into their UG software that was failing (I cried when i heard this was their plan, Ideas needed work on their surface generating algorithm but other than that was the best software I have ever used). UG had no surface capabilities to speak of be for that. And Creo (I forget what it's name was before they rebranded) has always been off to the side while others fought for top spot. never great, never any better than good enough. they can be thought of like the generic brand of high end cad. they implament bits and pieces of what works on other systems in a fashion that is just good enough. and good for them! that business model works for them.
- Thread starter
- #5
TiagoFigueiredo
Industrial
You are right in your assessment, but CATIA is loosing market share. And mainly is loosing to PTC CREO, and Siemens NX. And I agree with you, with CATIA capabilities. I've worked with CATIA, CREO and NX. And CATIA produces more reliable surfaces, and it's the most robust CAD package
Tiago Figueiredo
Tooling Engineer
Youtube channel:
Tiago Figueiredo
Tooling Engineer
Youtube channel:
jagodragon
Automotive
Yeah, I think Catia is loosing market share because they don't do any thing user friendly. They have started to make user friendly changes in the 3DX implementation of Catia V6. But, why would any one who doens't use cad or models (the bean counters and executives who make the decisions) go back to dassault after their sales, service and support groups had been abusing them for years? and that is their biggest flaw. NO ONE likes to deal with Dassault. they are rude, condescending, entitled and ask for a premium for the pleasure of having them abuse you. but their software is phenomenal.
As an 18 year UGII user (started with UG2-V3 in 1987) and now 20+ years on PTC (Pro/Engineer, Wildfire, Creo) that IFX video is neat, but doesn't play the whole picture. To start with it is very limited unless you buy the full package. The names of components can be modified only with the full package. While the stackup and bolt length selection is a nice feature it doesn't out weigh the other aspects of the programming. It does not use family tables, each components is an individual part. Most of the files I have seen from the limited version have way to many datum planes and the parametric dimensioning can be reduced in about half and still have a parametric model.
As for UG and surfacing, we were doing automobile surface styling of steering wheels back in UG V7, before the IDEAS product line was purchased and incorporated into NX. Surfacing in UG back then was better than surfacing in Creo today.
"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."
Ben Loosli
As for UG and surfacing, we were doing automobile surface styling of steering wheels back in UG V7, before the IDEAS product line was purchased and incorporated into NX. Surfacing in UG back then was better than surfacing in Creo today.
"Wildfires are dangerous, hard to control, and economically catastrophic."
Ben Loosli
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
- Question