StrEng007
Structural
- Aug 22, 2014
- 515
Regarding seismic design: Structures with high frequencies subjected to seismic vibrations with high frequencies, will exhibit high amplitude accelerations and resonance. Similarly, structures with long building periods subjected to low frequency earthquakes will be impacted more than adjacent buildings which are very stiff and have shorter periods.
How is this accounted for in the seismic procedures in ASCE 7-10?
From my understanding (using a very brief summary):
Seismic ground motion values, Ss and S1, provided in chapter 22 maps will give us the mapped acceleration parameters for buildings in site class B with a 5% damped system. Let's call this lookup process STEP A.
These values are then adjusted for site conditions, with use of site coefficients Fa & Fv, which will increase or decrease the mapped accelerations. With these coefficients and a 2/3 ratio, we arrive at design values SDs & SD1. (STEP B)
From here, using our building period and design values, a design response spectrum can be created. This will allow us to calculate our seismic response coefficient, Cs, based on the building period. (STEP C)
My questions are:
1. At what point is the ground frequency accounted for? There are two frequencies we're interested in, the vibrations in the ground and the vibrations in the structure. When ground motion values are taken from the tables, they list the acceleration of a structure with 5% damping and a building period of .2 seconds and 1 second.
2.Does this mean that Ss is the acceleration of a building with a period of .2 seconds, when subjected to the maximum available frequency that the bedrock in that location has been known to have? So if the site CAN vibrate at a frequency higher than an equivalent .2 second period building, the map provides the higher acceleration of:
a)the resonance between the frequency of the building when it is in unison with the earth's frequency
b)the acceleration response of the .2 second structure when it feels the maximum available frequency in the earth. (I don't see how this could be higher than a, because it wouldn't resonate)
If that's the case, then would California have mostly the same value for S1... assuming a frequency that exceeds the .2 second structure wouldn't impact it as much? Theoretically the acceleration would cap out.
(Recall, the period is the inverse of frequency T=2(pi)/w).
3. It seems like the magnitude of acceleration is adjusted for with the site coefficients Fa and Fv, due to the fact that different soils vibrate at different frequencies. This leaves me questioning WHAT EXACTLY DOES S1 AND Ss REPRESENT?
I've read through several seismic books, and they don't seem to explain this part. Instead, they just show how to use the formulas and calculate the forces required for design, which is fine.
What I'm trying to do, is draw a correlation between which seismic locations with a certain site class will better support a building with a short, medium or long building period, etc.
For a given design response spectrum diagram, will a building with a long period ever exhibit a higher acceleration than a building with a short period? I know this will happen in areas of low earth frequency, but I don't know how to illustrate it, which brings me back to my original question... Where is the resonance accounted for?
Any clarification would be greatly appreciated.
How is this accounted for in the seismic procedures in ASCE 7-10?
From my understanding (using a very brief summary):
Seismic ground motion values, Ss and S1, provided in chapter 22 maps will give us the mapped acceleration parameters for buildings in site class B with a 5% damped system. Let's call this lookup process STEP A.
These values are then adjusted for site conditions, with use of site coefficients Fa & Fv, which will increase or decrease the mapped accelerations. With these coefficients and a 2/3 ratio, we arrive at design values SDs & SD1. (STEP B)
From here, using our building period and design values, a design response spectrum can be created. This will allow us to calculate our seismic response coefficient, Cs, based on the building period. (STEP C)
My questions are:
1. At what point is the ground frequency accounted for? There are two frequencies we're interested in, the vibrations in the ground and the vibrations in the structure. When ground motion values are taken from the tables, they list the acceleration of a structure with 5% damping and a building period of .2 seconds and 1 second.
2.Does this mean that Ss is the acceleration of a building with a period of .2 seconds, when subjected to the maximum available frequency that the bedrock in that location has been known to have? So if the site CAN vibrate at a frequency higher than an equivalent .2 second period building, the map provides the higher acceleration of:
a)the resonance between the frequency of the building when it is in unison with the earth's frequency
b)the acceleration response of the .2 second structure when it feels the maximum available frequency in the earth. (I don't see how this could be higher than a, because it wouldn't resonate)
If that's the case, then would California have mostly the same value for S1... assuming a frequency that exceeds the .2 second structure wouldn't impact it as much? Theoretically the acceleration would cap out.
(Recall, the period is the inverse of frequency T=2(pi)/w).
3. It seems like the magnitude of acceleration is adjusted for with the site coefficients Fa and Fv, due to the fact that different soils vibrate at different frequencies. This leaves me questioning WHAT EXACTLY DOES S1 AND Ss REPRESENT?
I've read through several seismic books, and they don't seem to explain this part. Instead, they just show how to use the formulas and calculate the forces required for design, which is fine.
What I'm trying to do, is draw a correlation between which seismic locations with a certain site class will better support a building with a short, medium or long building period, etc.
For a given design response spectrum diagram, will a building with a long period ever exhibit a higher acceleration than a building with a short period? I know this will happen in areas of low earth frequency, but I don't know how to illustrate it, which brings me back to my original question... Where is the resonance accounted for?
Any clarification would be greatly appreciated.