sick of all the bull rant. is it the same everywhere? 3

[ukengineer58]

The new strategy every two years, usually a new ceo, providing more bullshit and hot air for the management team to discuss and monitor in meetings when the rest of us carry on as normal delivering projects to the same clients under the same conditions. Decisions taken that effect delivery by those with have no idea. HR giving themselves fancy names and producing endless paperwork for the simplest thing making work for themselves but also for the rest of us. Rant over.
Your turn.

 

[GregLocock]

Call that a rant? I get bigger rants than that free with my breakfast cereal.

Cheers

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[SNORGY]

Do I know you? Do we work at the same place?

Regards,

SNORGY.

 

[ctopher]

It's everywhere. Also what started jobs moving to China, dishonest/greedy/selfish/ignorant/etc upper management.
They have multiple meetings everyday to discuss BS. At the end of the meetings they give out homework to others to bring back more BS to put on their desks. In the mean time they have fancy lunches, etc.

If I owned a company, the CEO and management would have experience in the products we make, not just a BS degree with firing experience.

Chris
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[ukengineer58]

What gets me is the money that must be wasted in all this. Theres a show on here in uk, or used to be, where they remove a layer of management and let the workers get on with it. Reality shoe not a drama. Guess what the result is?

 

[SomptingGuy]

Blood pressure seems dangerously high here.

If you hate your job, move.

Can't find a suitable job, work by the hour.


- Steve

 

[cranky108]

Worse is goverment regulators with an agenda that won't work. Then they blame your industry for being greedy, or unwilling to tow the green line.

At least with new managment fads you get a tee shirt, and coffee mug.

 

[bigTomHanks]

From my experience it was the companies that provided the simple service or product that had the absolute worst management in this respect. Now that I work in a higher technology industry the out of control idiots don't make it through the door. I guess I'm pretty lucky right now.

 

[Comcokid]

bigTomHanks - You're working in the exception to the norm. I've worked in high tech companies where I've been in small meetings with a high executive present and the discussion in the meeting quickly reveals how out-of-touch and clueless they usually are.

That's why legends of middle-level a$$ ki$$er$ are needed to hide the fact that the emperor has no clothes.

common sense is indeed very uncommon

 

[berkshire]

ukengineer58
You need to go to the public library and read "Parkinsons Law" or, if you have already read it, read it again.
It will not help you, but it will make you realise that things are not as bad as they could be.
B.E.

The good engineer does not need to memorize every formula; he just needs to know where he can find them when he needs them. Old professor

 

[waross]

"The Peter Principle" states that in an organization people tend to rise to their level of incompetence.
My favorite was a construction job with incredibly inept supervision.
Badly behind schedule and over budget, in desperation a foreman's meeting was called, at 7:00 AM sharp. The entire crew sat without assigned work until the meeting was over.
Another aspect of the inept supervision was that they couldn't assign work even a day ahead. Each foreman gave his crew their direction for the day at the start of each shift, (after the meeting was over on that day.)


Bill
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Jimmy Carter

 

[drawoh]

..
"The Peter Principle" states that in an organization people tend to rise to their level of incompetence.

The Peter Principle states that people rise to their level of incompetence.

In his book, Peter also states that (in)competence is in the eye of the beholder. I think this negates his first point.

JHG

 

[KENAT]

Ah yes, we have new operations management (New VP, Manufacturing Eng Director, Production Director & Supply Chain Director...) so they are reinventing the wheel, trying to introduce their versions of the things the department I was originally part of was trying to do 6 years ago... Name your Acronym DFx, FMEA... they're rolling them all out.

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[SomptingGuy]

Our new boss seems unusually sensible. Not a job hopper. Not using this post as a step ladder. Not fighting against the bosses. Feels quite nice.

- Steve

 

[jmw]

SG, enjoy.
If he is any good he won't last long before he either gets promoted up the ladder or they sideline him.
There is nothing senior management hate more than the sight of more able people on the lower rungs climbing up after them. They fear being overtaken and shown up for what they are. They will take steps to fix the "problem".

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[cranky108]

They say 50% of all promotions are bad promotions. But you never see those 50% demoted, because that would make the promoter look bad.

This is the basis of the tidal shifts of in-sourcing, and out-sourcing, as well as managment fads. The purpose is remove dead wood. The problem is the best talent leaves from the frustration of it all.

So if you ever wonder why middle managment seems to always be shifting, it's because of the 50% of bad promotions.

 

[lacajun]

Ah, yes, cranky108 has highlighted once again the corporate mantra of "never admitting to a mistake nor saying anyone else has made a mistake" and we will call that progress. To me, the last recession was a result of that kind of thinking.

People are the same everywhere. We can complicate something as simple as thirst. Look at the rows and shelves of drinkable products in the grocery and convenience stores.

Much of what companies do today adds no value to their end product.

Pamela K. Quillin, P.E.
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[jmw]

Yes, it is a triumph of marketing that in countries where the tap water is safe to drink, they can sell so much bottled water at 1000 times the price of tap water.

JMW

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[brandonbw]

This reminds me of somewhere I worked that the person doing the books had a job to make a presentation twice a year to show the employees how the company was doing. I could not believe what I heard, but it took 6 months to come up with 1 powerpoint slide with a pie graph with useless info. That was it. Somehow that person is still there.

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[jmw]

I have maintained that bad managers are pretty well assured of some sort of tenure never actually being fired or demoted but an exception comes to mind.

Our company was putting on a lavish open day for invited senior managers of the water industry.
A marquis was erected in the car park and no expense spared on the buffet with a seemingly limitless supply of champagne.

That was the day a new manager arrived for work. By mid afternoon he was paralytic.
He did not appear the next day and was never seen or heard of again.


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