SolidEdge ordered inovation 1

[TiagoFigueiredo]

Hello,


I would like to know your opinion and knowledge about the solidedge inovation, in orthered environment. As much i have realised (correct me if i'm wrong), in recent years, Solidedge have only upgraded mainly in synchronous side. At least since ST release. In my opinion synchronous is a good technology, but i think it lost a lot of capabilities that ordered has. For example managing external references, it looks not so good in synchronous.

At the moment i'm looking a new cad solutions for my company, we work with metal stamping tooling (progressive dies, transfer dies). I have lot experience with Catia and NX, but they are a lot expensive. I have also some experience with SolidWorks (a good tool for CAD). My experience with solidedge comes from a project that i have made in V14 version, since then i have made small things in ST6.

According to price/benefits i'm wondering 3 cad software.

-SolidEdge
-SolidWorks
-Creo

SolidEdge as a lot of modeling capabilities, but i think ordered environment is not so powerful as solidWorks. But managing external references, looks a lot stronger than SolidWorks (I use that a lot). Surfacing looks better in SolidWorks.
Creo looks good, but the learning curve looks longer, according with demos, i haven't found anything drawn in Creo, that it's impossible or much faster to draw in SolidEdge or SolidWorks.


But i Would like to know your opinion regarding SolidEdge compared with SolidWorks and Creo.

Managing external references?
Surfacing capabilities
Working with full parametric assemblies with around 1000 parts.


Thanks, and sorry for my english

 

[swertel]

I haven't used CREO in a production environment since it was still Pro/E, so I can't speak much to that.

Solid Edge has incredible tools for handling large assemblies. When Solidworks says large assemblies, they typically refer to 1000s of parts. When Solid Edge refers to large assemblies, they refer to 100,000s of parts. Orders of magnitude difference.

Solidworks has much better surfacing and industrial design tools than Solid Edge. While Solid Edge does have some unique surfacing tools (mainly Bluesurf and Blue Dot), it doesn't quite match the power of Solidworks.

Can you give me an example of what you mean by managing external references?

--Scott
www.wertel.pro

 

[TiagoFigueiredo]

Hello,

I mean external references (Catia Denomination), in assembly environment, create links between parts, sketch, surface...

 

[swertel]

Gotcha. In that case, both Solidworks and Solid Edge are fairly similar. Slight differences, but those nuances are adapted to when becoming proficient at either software.

--Scott
www.wertel.pro

 

[loki3000]

i doubt SE can take 100k parts in an assembly. that's NX and catia territory.

 

[beachcomber]

100k parts is not a problem in SE, whether using ordered or synchronous.
I was working in assemblies with more than that several years ago.
As with any system though, you do need the hardware to handle assemblies of that size, and it depends on how you sey up your system.

bc.
Core i5-3570 @3.4GHz , 8GB RAM
Quadro FX4600. W7 Pro 64-bit.

 

[swertel]

Solid Edge is, quite frankly, one of the best CAD tools for really large assemblies. The development team is continually coming up with means and methods to handle even large assemblies without performance degradation. Model some screw threads, though, and even the simplest assembly slows to a crawl.

--Scott
www.wertel.pro