electricpete
Electrical
- May 4, 2001
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In thread407-142111 I described an impeller that is a loose fit to the shaft with no setscrew and not taper. As explained by Mike H in that thread, that is a necessary feature for this particular type of pump (gerotor).
We have been having problems with failing keys and keyways in this application. I don't want to get too deep into that except on one aspect:
Doesn't the loose fit mean that the torque will be transmitted between the impeller and shaft within a very small area of the shaft adjacent to the keyway? Won’t there be a significant stress concentration at the keyway because of this.
I know there is are standard stress concentration factor for keyways. For example Mil-hdbk-776 Figure 5 (page 12.) available for free at
Those standard stress concentration factors assume that the entire shaft cross section is assumed to participate in transmitting the torque. This would be the case if the torque was applied at points upstream and downstream of the keyway. This would also be pretty close if the torque is applied fairly uniformly around the outside of the shaft with a tight fit. I don't think this comes anywhere close when the torque has to be transmitted through a key and the shaft is a loose fit within the impeller.
My main question: How would one estimate a stress concentratio factor for this situation.
Data is as follows
5/8” diameter shaft
Keyway 3/32” deep by 3/16” wide by ¾” long
1.5 HP
1200RPM
[This is a duplicate of a thread posted several weeks ago in the pump forum – no response there so I’m moving it here]
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We have been having problems with failing keys and keyways in this application. I don't want to get too deep into that except on one aspect:
Doesn't the loose fit mean that the torque will be transmitted between the impeller and shaft within a very small area of the shaft adjacent to the keyway? Won’t there be a significant stress concentration at the keyway because of this.
I know there is are standard stress concentration factor for keyways. For example Mil-hdbk-776 Figure 5 (page 12.) available for free at
Those standard stress concentration factors assume that the entire shaft cross section is assumed to participate in transmitting the torque. This would be the case if the torque was applied at points upstream and downstream of the keyway. This would also be pretty close if the torque is applied fairly uniformly around the outside of the shaft with a tight fit. I don't think this comes anywhere close when the torque has to be transmitted through a key and the shaft is a loose fit within the impeller.
My main question: How would one estimate a stress concentratio factor for this situation.
Data is as follows
5/8” diameter shaft
Keyway 3/32” deep by 3/16” wide by ¾” long
1.5 HP
1200RPM
[This is a duplicate of a thread posted several weeks ago in the pump forum – no response there so I’m moving it here]
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