Student Versions of Solide Edge/ NX?

[ubercad]

There are student versions avilable for Catia V5, Solidworks, a mutitude of Autodesk products including Inventor, and Pro/e I belive. For someone looking to expand ther skill set of cad applications, these are highly usefull in developing a proficency on a new software.

How come Seimens doesn't offer student versions of NX and/or Solid Edge? Gaining any experince on this software outside of getting a job where these applications are used (catch 22 applies) or taking a course at a university or college (provided you are eligible to audit the course) would be next to impossible.

I'm in the Columbus OH area.

Ideas? Suggestions?

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[Kenny_G]

Ubercad, there are indeed student versions of Solid Edge and NX. I believe that you just need to be a student enrolled in a program using them to get a student copy such as an engineering student at The Ohio State University. For clarification, I would suggest calling and enquiring about it with the Solid Edge VAR, Engineering Methods (

http://www.engmeth.com).

 

[burhop]

My son is a student at Auburn and gets the Solid Edge Student edition almost for free (I think the university charges to make a copy). University of Cincinnati should be the same. I don't know about OSU.

BTW, I was born and raised just outside of Columbus (Lancaster).

 

[ubercad]

when you say "enrolled in a programm", would that entail becoming a full time student, declaring a major and then completeing several prerequiste courses to get into the class that would allow me to get SE? At 41, I have no plans of enrolling at Ohio State (or any other college)and pursuing another engineering degree just to get a student copy of Solid Edge. If I can merely audit a class that would allow me to get the student version, that would be fine.

How long does the licence last?

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[burhop]

In my son's case, the license is unlimited and you can get it with a student ID. I don't know much more about it than that.

I did find this link on the web page. Maybe there is something there that will help for your situation
:

http://www.plm.automation.siemens.com/en_us/about_us/goplm/index.shtml

 

[ubercad]

burhop,

Thanks for the link, but I didn't see anything of any use there, unless I missed something...

I used NX3 for about a year, over a year ago. It would be nice to have access to the software, some way or another, to keep up my skills and develop a few more.

Maybe a PLM cafe, where people could pay by the hour to work with various apps. I'd be willing to pay, say $3.99/hr, or a monthly membership of $50/month.

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[HDS]

http://www.journeyed.com/

 

[Gemnoc]

Around here (eastern Canada), colleges offer evening courses to people wanting to learn new skills. You don't need to enroll in a program. I'm sure it's the same in the USA.

There's a 42-hour course on Solid Edge Advanced Techniques that's starting next October, one night a week. I'm thinking of taking it, even though I probably already know 2/3 of the material. I'm pretty sure they offer a student licence of SE so you can practice at home.

 

[ubercad]

HDS

Your link to journeyed.com did not yield any results for obtaining and affordable verion of Solid Edge or NX, just books.

Seems ther are a lot more books for Solidworks, AutoCAD and Pro/E than for the Seimens products.

Hmmm....

I begining to think that solid edge is one of those "fringe" cad apps like Ironcad or Keycreator (CADKey).

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[donyoung]

to get a copy of an academic version of

- Inventor, SWX, SE(NX?)
you have to be a student either University, Highschool or any
other educational unit
If these units have a campus license then they can give
you a copy/license free of charge.
When this is not the case you can request a copy from the
software company by providing your valid 'student' ID and the
name of the school, university, ...
- Inventor --> free of charge
- SWX -> ??
- SE -> might charge you
- NX --> ??

SWX and SE offer a HomeUse license. When you are an employee of
a company that uses one of these products the HomeUse license can be
generated free of charge (1 full version = 1 HomeUse license). You
must however carry out 80% of your daily work with that CAD to be
eligible for that type of license

- Pro/E
- AFAIK everyone can get an academic copy, price approx. 200$ ??
- for students it might be lower or even free of charge


dy

 

[Gemnoc]

@ ubercad

Solid Edge is not as "fringe" as IronCad or KeyCreator, but it is definitely more marginal than SolidWorks, Inventor, Pro|E or Catia. You can find tons of online resources for those, almost nothing for SE, unfortunately. :-(

 

[ubercad]

I am aware of the home use concept and that is a good option if you work at a company that uses SE. I, unfortunately unemployed a the moment.

As for the student approach see my postings on the UG/NX thread:

http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=251660&page=1

I was half joking about the "fringe" comment. If I meant it, I woundn't be making such a fuss about it.

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[HDS]

You have to talk to the VAR but they have 30 day free demos you can get.

http://www.plm.automation.siemens.c...solidedge/free_trial/solid_edge_free_eval.cfm

 

[ubercad]

HDS,

Yeah, prior to this post, I inquired about that, filled out the info on the website. I was contacted a few days later by a representative and was told they would send someone to install it on my machine but only if I was a company considering purchasing it. Not my current situation.

Siemens, IMHO, is not interested in letting the general public have access to Solid Edge or nx.

General public: excludes those enrolled in an institution of higher learning that uses solidedge (even then you may not get a copy for your computer) and those working at a company where one has access to a home use license.

my options:

1) Lie to gain a position at a company where knowledge of solidedge is required so I can get a home use license so I can learn solidedge.
2) Try to enroll at Ohio state and audit a class to get access to the software. Access might mean use could be restricted to a computer lab on campus.
3) Obtain a bootleg version. This could potentionally be the easiest option but with some risk of course.


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[beachcomber]

"Siemens, IMHO, is not interested in letting the general public have access to Solid Edge or nx"

I had exactly the same problem with SolidWorks when I was unemployed recently. I contacted a supplier to get a 30-day copy to brush up my skills but was told no chance.

A local AutoCad supplier, however, did offer me a 30 day copy of Inventor to play with. Fortunately I got a job before I got the software.


bc.
2.4GHz Core2 Quad, 4GB RAM,
Quadro FX4600.

 

[Gemnoc]

"Fortunately I got a job before I got the software."

LOL, BC.

I don't understand this reluctance from Siemens PLM to distribute try-outs to people wanting to learn their software on their own.

Our ex-VAR's representative told me they were always on the look-out for people knowledgeable in SE, on behalf of their customers, and that they were hard to find.

Autodesk and Solidworks have had their "engineering stimulus package" programs, giving away time-limited copies of their software to people out of work. Siemens lost a good occasion there, IMHO.

 

[donyoung]

.. and do not forget Alibre's $99 action: full version 11.2
upgradable to V12 and their AlibreXpress -- freeware, usage
is unlimited
The only thing Siemens has to offer is the free 2D-Drafting
-- did I hear any laughing ...

dy

 

[Gemnoc]

Yeah Don, I am strongly tempted to buy one licence of Alibre for my personal use. At this price it's a steal.

As for Alibre Xpress, I've read it has severe limitations.

 

[donyoung]

> As for Alibre Xpress, I've read it has severe limitations.

yup, it has -- but it might still be good enough for the hobbyist.
It's an appetizer, the main goal is: spread the software ...

dy

 

[Xwheelguy]

One thing ubercad failed to mention was that in the NX forum, a Siemens employee posted that Siemens was working on something along the lines of student versions but he didn't have any timeframe or further details at the moment (that was earlier this week).

I can't speak for SE, but years ago UG/Creator was the student version of UG. I think it had a few limitations, but cannot recall for sure.

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