Text alignment in editor 3

[eex23]

Hello all,

just upgraded from NX8 to NX10.
Please take a look at the attached picture. Something wrong with fonts in text editor. Is it possible to change it to smth else, to avoid incorrect alignment?
We have lots of drawings with such annotations (old drawings), and it is quite messy to edit them. There were no any problem with NX8. It seems that NX8 used different own font in editor dialog.

Thanks.

NX10.0.3.5 mp16, win7 64bit

 

[JohnRBaker]

It appears that the font that you're using is what is often called mono-spaced, meaning that all characters are the same width, while the font used by the text editor is proportionally spaced. The real issue is that the text editor does NOT provide an actual 'preview' of what the note will look like but rather only what it says. In other words, the NX text editor is NOT a WYSIWYG style editor, that is it does not provide the user with a "What You See Is What You Get" preview.

John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
EX-Product 'Evangelist'
Irvine, CA
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[cowski]

For creating notes such as this, I'd suggest using a tabular note; that way the information will line up correctly no matter what font is in use. You can turn off the grid lines of the note to keep the same "look" as the current note. I know this doesn't help with editing of existing notes, but will be worth doing for newly created notes.

www.nxjournaling.com

 

[eex23]

Thanks for the replay.
But what was changed in NX10? In NX8 (also as I remember NX7) what I can see in text editor, is what I get in a drawing. I made a screenshot from NX8.

 

[JohnRBaker]

You used a different font in NX 8.0 than what you're using in NX 10.0. Try using the same fonts and see what you get.

John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
EX-Product 'Evangelist'
Irvine, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:

The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
It's finding someone you can't live without

 

[Arkance/PhoeNX]

There's no difference between NX8 & NX10. I just tested what you've described in NX8 and NX10 and for me they are the same as what you say NX10 is doing.
That is using the fonts that I tested with.

As John mentioned, it's more than likely that the font being used in NX10 is different to the one used in NX8.
The editor shows AcadEref or Blackfont being used, but neither of those fonts look like the ones on the drawing.

What font is the note in NX8 (RMB the note and select Style to see the font being used)?


Anthony Galante
Senior Support Engineer


NX3 to NX11 with almost every MR (24versions)

 

[eex23]

Both NX8 and NX10 use NORMSHRIFT for annotations. Its our company's standard. Its OK in drawing sheet both for NX8 and NX10. Its not OK (in NX10) in text editor.
Seems that NX10 uses different system font. But where I can change it?

 

[Arkance/PhoeNX]

The icon for the font shows that it's a NX font (as opposed to a true type font). However I don't have NORMSCHRIFT in any of my NX installs.
Look for the appropriate .fnx font file in ...\UGII\ugfonts (preferably the one from NX8).

Can you please upload so I can test?


Anthony Galante
Senior Support Engineer


NX3 to NX11 with almost every MR (24versions)

 

[eex23]

OK, I'm attaching normschrift font.
But I think you dont understand me clear. Normschrift is font has nothing to do with font used inside text editor dialog.

 

[Arkance/PhoeNX]

I understand what you are saying, but as I said in my first post, when I tested in NX8 and NX10 (using different fonts to you) I was not seeing the alignment as you say you got in NX8.

Only when I use the normschrift font you supplied can I see the same behaviour in NX8 (which NX10 doesn't do).
You'd have to ask Siemens GTAC about this as I think it's specific to the font being used as well as what version of NX.


Anthony Galante
Senior Support Engineer


NX3 to NX11 with almost every MR (24versions)

 

[eex23]

I found, that you can influence it by Preferences->User Interface and changing NX Theme. If I change it from "Classic" to "Classic with system font" or "System" I can see different results in Text editor dialog. Maybe its possible to change system font?

 

[NutAce]

So where is the issue exactly?
If I type my text in the editor I can see directly on my drawing how it looks before I place it.

Ronald van den Broek
Senior Application Engineer
Winterthur Gas & Diesel Ltd
NX9 / TC10.1.2

Building new PLM environment from Scratch using NX11 / TC11

 

[eex23]

The issue is that alignment does not match in text editor and as it looks on drawing.

So how it looks in NX8:

 

[cowski]

Just google how to change the font that your OS uses. I'm currently on Windows 7; when I searched "change system font windows 7", this was one of the first results:

http://www.wikihow.com/Change-the-Default-Font-on-Windows-7

It looks like your NX font is monospaced, pick a system font that is also monospaced for a better representation of what your note will look like when placed.

www.nxjournaling.com

 

[Arkance/PhoeNX]

@cowski, you've nailed it, that's why the difference between NX8 & NX10.
NX8 is probably set to the default - NX(Recommended) whereas NX10 has been set away from the default to most likely 'Classic with System Font'.

The last two images show that the fonts between versions in the text editor are different.


Anthony Galante
Senior Support Engineer


NX3 to NX11 with almost every MR (24versions)

 

[eex23]

cowski: of course, it checked it.

https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1175-fonts-change.html

"This will show you how to change most or all of the default fonts in Windows 7 for Active Title Bar, Icon, Inactive Title Bar, Menu, Message Box, Palette Title, Selected Items, ToolTip, and various Dialog Box text and buttons.

Changing a Windows 7 font doesn't change your program fonts."

If you change Windows system font, it affects only Windows, but not programs.

 

[cowski]

If you are using the NX "system" theme or "classic with system font", changing the system font should affect NX. The other themes use their own fonts, separate from Windows.

www.nxjournaling.com

 

[cowski]

Here are a couple of other threads relating to the NX menu/dialog font:
thread561-280256
thread561-401435

I just did a quick search, there are probably more on the topic if you search deeper.

www.nxjournaling.com

 

[eex23]

Thanks cowsky. The key was "monospaced font".

 

[JohnRBaker]

Isn't that what I said two days ago ;-)

John R. Baker, P.E. (ret)
EX-Product 'Evangelist'
Irvine, CA
Siemens PLM:
UG/NX Museum:

The secret of life is not finding someone to live with
It's finding someone you can't live without