palebluedot
Chemical
- May 3, 2011
- 1
Hi everyone,
I am attempting to determine the amount of time it might take for a process fluid to heat up from 46.4 deg F to 50 deg F. The buffer fluid can be modeled with the same properties as water sitting stagnant in a 3/4" ID SS pipe (with 0.65" wall thickness). I am assuming a horizontal cylinder for the geometry.
The purpose of the calculation is to understand the extra time gained to increase the water 3.6 deg F through insulating the pipe. This will help me determine whether the insulation would be effective enough to keep the buffer cool, and whether it would be necessary at all.
I have been able to understand my heat transfer equations well enough to determine the time required to heat up the water without insulation surrounding the pipe, but once I add the insulation I run into problems.
In my methodology for figuring out the time to heat the water (without insulation), I used the lumped capacitance method. In order to do so I needed to calculate a Biot number <0.1, so the approach was valid.
To find the Biot number one is required to observe the properties of the convection fluid and the conduction solid to solve Bi# = h*Lc/k
To find the h value I used the grashof and prandtl numbers, along with the operating temperatures and system geometry.
h=(0.27)*(((Ts-Tinf)/d)^.25)
Using properties of steel (conductivity and characteristic length) along with the calculated h value, I found the Biot number was in fact <0.1
I then calculated the Fourier number in terms of time: Fo = k*t/p*(Cp)*(Lc)^2
Plugging into the non-dimensionalized equation to find the temperature at time t: Tt = Tinf + (Ti-Tinf)e^(-Bi*Fo)
This approach seemed to work well, stating it would take 29.1 min to heat the water up 3.6 deg F through the steel pipe once I solved for t.
HOWEVER! I am unsure of how to approach the problem once I add the insulation.
There are two main problems I seem to be facing:
1) How should the Biot number be calculated with two different conductivities? The insulation has a much lower conductivity than steel obviously, and would drastically alter the Biot number.
2) I assume that if I could correctly calculate the Biot number, it will prove the lumped capacitance method invalid, with a value over 0.1 (due to the insulation). If this is the case I am left to solve for the time using the exact equation (which I am unsure of how to approach) or use the Heisler charts. Unfortunately, Heisler charts require the use of the Fourier number, which requires a conductivity value for the steel and the insulation. So still, I am left with the question of which parameter properties to use.
Does it make sense that I scale and combine the conductivities, densities, and specific heats of the steel and the insulation?
I wouldd suggest to more simply scale only the diffusivity (equivalent to the k/p*Cp term in Fo) but those values are not supplied for the insulation. Which brings me to my last and final question! Does anyone know where I might be able to find information on the diffusivity or specific heat of t-tubes? <- this is all the information I can find/am supplied with and it seems essential that I know either the diffusivity or specific heat.
For now, I am using an insulation specific heat of 0.4 BTU/lb-F, does that seem reasonable?
Thank you so much for your help!
I am attempting to determine the amount of time it might take for a process fluid to heat up from 46.4 deg F to 50 deg F. The buffer fluid can be modeled with the same properties as water sitting stagnant in a 3/4" ID SS pipe (with 0.65" wall thickness). I am assuming a horizontal cylinder for the geometry.
The purpose of the calculation is to understand the extra time gained to increase the water 3.6 deg F through insulating the pipe. This will help me determine whether the insulation would be effective enough to keep the buffer cool, and whether it would be necessary at all.
I have been able to understand my heat transfer equations well enough to determine the time required to heat up the water without insulation surrounding the pipe, but once I add the insulation I run into problems.
In my methodology for figuring out the time to heat the water (without insulation), I used the lumped capacitance method. In order to do so I needed to calculate a Biot number <0.1, so the approach was valid.
To find the Biot number one is required to observe the properties of the convection fluid and the conduction solid to solve Bi# = h*Lc/k
To find the h value I used the grashof and prandtl numbers, along with the operating temperatures and system geometry.
h=(0.27)*(((Ts-Tinf)/d)^.25)
Using properties of steel (conductivity and characteristic length) along with the calculated h value, I found the Biot number was in fact <0.1
I then calculated the Fourier number in terms of time: Fo = k*t/p*(Cp)*(Lc)^2
Plugging into the non-dimensionalized equation to find the temperature at time t: Tt = Tinf + (Ti-Tinf)e^(-Bi*Fo)
This approach seemed to work well, stating it would take 29.1 min to heat the water up 3.6 deg F through the steel pipe once I solved for t.
HOWEVER! I am unsure of how to approach the problem once I add the insulation.
There are two main problems I seem to be facing:
1) How should the Biot number be calculated with two different conductivities? The insulation has a much lower conductivity than steel obviously, and would drastically alter the Biot number.
2) I assume that if I could correctly calculate the Biot number, it will prove the lumped capacitance method invalid, with a value over 0.1 (due to the insulation). If this is the case I am left to solve for the time using the exact equation (which I am unsure of how to approach) or use the Heisler charts. Unfortunately, Heisler charts require the use of the Fourier number, which requires a conductivity value for the steel and the insulation. So still, I am left with the question of which parameter properties to use.
Does it make sense that I scale and combine the conductivities, densities, and specific heats of the steel and the insulation?
I wouldd suggest to more simply scale only the diffusivity (equivalent to the k/p*Cp term in Fo) but those values are not supplied for the insulation. Which brings me to my last and final question! Does anyone know where I might be able to find information on the diffusivity or specific heat of t-tubes? <- this is all the information I can find/am supplied with and it seems essential that I know either the diffusivity or specific heat.
For now, I am using an insulation specific heat of 0.4 BTU/lb-F, does that seem reasonable?
Thank you so much for your help!