Unwanted attributes

[bbylls]

In NX5 I import a part (say part #1) into part #2.
When I open a spreadsheet and extract the attributes, all of part #1 attributes show up (along with part #2 attributes), but they do not show up in the part attributes of part #2 when I try to edit them.
How can I delete these unwanted attributes now that I have imported part #1 into part #2 ?

 

[JohnRBaker]

I'm sorry, but I can't duplicate this behavior using NX 5.0.6.3.

John R. Baker, P.E.
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[bbylls]

I am also using 5.0.6.3
I create a new part and add a block.
Click File>Properties and create a new attribute.
Close and save the part.
Create another new part.
Click File>Import and import the first part you made.
Click File>Properties and there are no attributes.
Now under Tools I click Spreadsheet.
In Excel under Tools I click Extract Attr.
The attribute from the original part one shows up.
Can I delete these?
Thank you.

 

[JohnRBaker]

Try reversing the workflow. That is, EXPORT the part with the block (and the attributes) INTO the empty file.

As for what you found (which I am now able to reproduce) I'll check with our architecture people and see what they have to say about this.

John R. Baker, P.E.
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Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
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Cypress, CA

http://www.siemens.com/plm

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[bbylls]

Thanks for the help John.
I'll give it a try.

 

[JohnRBaker]

OK, problem solved!

What's happening here is that if you use the Import Part function OOTB, the 'Create Named Group' option is toggled ON. What happens when this is toggled ON is that Part Attributes from the incoming part file are assigned as Object Attributes to the Named Group that is created which contains the geometry from the incoming part. Now what you're seeing when you open the spreadsheet and extract the attributes are the Object Attributes assigned to this Named Group, which is why in the spreadsheet the names of the attributes have a prefix as this is actually the name of the Group which also happens to have been the name of the original incoming part file.

So the easiest way out of this is just toggle the 'Create Named Group' option OFF before you Import your part file. Since there is NO group being created, the Part Attributes are never copied over as there is no place to put them.

Now if you actually would like to keep the Named Group, what you can do after the Import operation is to open the Part Navigator and toggle OFF the 'Time Stamp' mode (BTW, in the next version of NX, you will have access to named groups from the Part Navigator anytime you wish no matter what 'mode' you're working in) and then open the 'Unused Items' folder, select the Group you find there, press MB3, select the 'Properties' option and then simply delete all the Attributes and hit OK. Now you have your group, but NO more unwanted Attributes.

Sorry I didn't catch this sooner, but I had forgotten about this Group behavior, which also explains how in my first attempt to duplicate this yesterday I wasn't able to since that time around I had toggled OFF the 'Create Named Group' option without thinking that that may have been the issue all along. Well, mystery solved all the way round.

John R. Baker, P.E.
Product 'Evangelist'
Product Design Solutions
Siemens PLM Software Inc.
Industry Sector
Cypress, CA

http://www.siemens.com/plm

http://www.plmworld.org/museum/

To an Engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

 

[bbylls]

Thanks for the help.
Works great.
Thanks again.