danw2
Industrial
- Oct 21, 2004
- 1,524
Our plant has a small network of 4 frequency hopping, 900Mhz, 1 watt, unlicensed ISM band, serial data radios (tlaking Modbus) whose performance seems to be degrading over the past 2 years, as evidenced by an increasing number of time-outs and failed responses.
The system worked flawlessly for the first 1 year, but over the past 2 years has gradually "missed" more readings. The data is for monitoring & logging purposes, not for control purposes, but I'd still like to figure out what the problem is to come up with a repair stategy.
The various radios are mounted indoors and an antenna cable exits each building to yagi antennas mounted on stand-offs or masts (the base radio has an omnidirectional antenna). Each radio has a surge suppressor device between the antenna cable and the radio.
Each radio has its own 24Vdc power supply (2 amp rating for a 200mA radio load) and each p/s is dead on at 24Vdc.
Each radio has an output for an RSSI value. Having recorded the RSSI values over 4 months shows a slight decrease month to month (hundredths of a volt on a 0-4Vdc scale), with a couple radios at the marginal edge of acceptable.
At 1 watt output, I suspect that the actual transmitter part of the radio probably is not defective, but I haven't yet tested that.
I suspect that the antenna cables or antennas might have impaired efficiency due to weather, sunlight, water instrusion, whatever.
Going back several decades to "Good Buddy" days of CB radio, I remember using an SWR meter to 'tune' the length of a CB antenna. If my recollection is correct, SWR is supposed to indicate the relative amount of power radiated out from the antenna 'system' vs that which is lost in reflection. As such I infer that SWR can indicate the performance of the suppressor, cable and the antenna.
I inquired of the radio supplier about whether a 900Mhz VSWR meter would be suitable for
a) checking the relative condition of the antenna cable and antenna
b) checking the power output of the radio's transmitter with a dummy load.
The individual I talked to wasn't sure because that function resides in the "installer's domain, the guys who put up the towers" . The manufacturer only sells radios. Sigh. He did tell me that there is an AT command that will force the radio into continuous output mode, which although technically not legal in the ISM band, a 2 second output needed to get a reading is unlikely to disturb much in a fairly rural area.
I have a spare yagi antenna and a spare 25' antenna cable. My thought is to connect those to one of the radios to get a base line SWR reading. Then compare that reading to the reading of each of the installed radios.
My questions are
1) whether a VSWR meter like the Daiwa CN-801SII
might be suitable for doing antenna system & transmitter power testing?
2) Are there light duty,commercially available 2 watt dummy loads? (I"ve found 10 and 15 watt dummy loads)
3) I asssume I have to make some accounting for any error introduced by a dummy load for a power reading, or maybe a dummy load error is essentially a constant?
4) Is there a test for the surge suppressor? Do surge suppressors fail incrementally or catastrophically?
The system worked flawlessly for the first 1 year, but over the past 2 years has gradually "missed" more readings. The data is for monitoring & logging purposes, not for control purposes, but I'd still like to figure out what the problem is to come up with a repair stategy.
The various radios are mounted indoors and an antenna cable exits each building to yagi antennas mounted on stand-offs or masts (the base radio has an omnidirectional antenna). Each radio has a surge suppressor device between the antenna cable and the radio.
Each radio has its own 24Vdc power supply (2 amp rating for a 200mA radio load) and each p/s is dead on at 24Vdc.
Each radio has an output for an RSSI value. Having recorded the RSSI values over 4 months shows a slight decrease month to month (hundredths of a volt on a 0-4Vdc scale), with a couple radios at the marginal edge of acceptable.
At 1 watt output, I suspect that the actual transmitter part of the radio probably is not defective, but I haven't yet tested that.
I suspect that the antenna cables or antennas might have impaired efficiency due to weather, sunlight, water instrusion, whatever.
Going back several decades to "Good Buddy" days of CB radio, I remember using an SWR meter to 'tune' the length of a CB antenna. If my recollection is correct, SWR is supposed to indicate the relative amount of power radiated out from the antenna 'system' vs that which is lost in reflection. As such I infer that SWR can indicate the performance of the suppressor, cable and the antenna.
I inquired of the radio supplier about whether a 900Mhz VSWR meter would be suitable for
a) checking the relative condition of the antenna cable and antenna
b) checking the power output of the radio's transmitter with a dummy load.
The individual I talked to wasn't sure because that function resides in the "installer's domain, the guys who put up the towers" . The manufacturer only sells radios. Sigh. He did tell me that there is an AT command that will force the radio into continuous output mode, which although technically not legal in the ISM band, a 2 second output needed to get a reading is unlikely to disturb much in a fairly rural area.
I have a spare yagi antenna and a spare 25' antenna cable. My thought is to connect those to one of the radios to get a base line SWR reading. Then compare that reading to the reading of each of the installed radios.
My questions are
1) whether a VSWR meter like the Daiwa CN-801SII
might be suitable for doing antenna system & transmitter power testing?
2) Are there light duty,commercially available 2 watt dummy loads? (I"ve found 10 and 15 watt dummy loads)
3) I asssume I have to make some accounting for any error introduced by a dummy load for a power reading, or maybe a dummy load error is essentially a constant?
4) Is there a test for the surge suppressor? Do surge suppressors fail incrementally or catastrophically?