dsg1985
Mechanical
- Apr 10, 2010
- 25
Hello,
In the design of a recent pipeline a fellow engineer and I discovered that the largest transient pressures in our pipeline would be caused by a pressure relief valve activating, and an operator shutting off the pipeline while it was activating. We were wondering if this is normally considered in design (neither of us are very experienced).
The pipeline is a raw water line feeding a mine. The line descends down a drift about 3km long and 250m deep. To limit static pressures a pressure reducing valve is located about midway down the drift (125m elevation point). Immediately downstream of the pressure reducing valve is a pressure relief valve set close to the downstream pressure setting of the reducing valve. If the reducing valve fails, the relief valve operates to ensure the static pressures at the bottom of the drift are not excessive.
To illustrate:
/////////z/////////Xo----------------
////////////////// : First 1.5km of pipeline
------------------ : Second 1.5km of pipeline
X: pressure reducing valve
o: pressure relief valve
z: isolation valve
When the reducing valve fails the PRV operates and needs to discharge 100L/second to cause a loss in the '///' section necessary to bring the pressure down at point X to the pressure of the reducing valve's downstream setting. This is a very high flow for the pipeline (normal flow is about 50L/s). The issue is the maximum pressures we had designed for up until this point were for the transients associated with suddenly stopping a flow of 50L/s. Now we had effectively doubled our transient pressure increase!
We did some calculations and worked out that if an operator suddenly stopped the flow at z, they would cause a transient pressure increase that would be beyond the burst pressure of the pipeline.
We solved the issue by putting the relief valve setting up slightly so that it only needed to discharge about 70L/second.
Has anyone else encountered this issue before?
Disclaimer - I used figures of 100L/s and 50L/s to simplify things, the flows were quite different, but the same principle applied.
In the design of a recent pipeline a fellow engineer and I discovered that the largest transient pressures in our pipeline would be caused by a pressure relief valve activating, and an operator shutting off the pipeline while it was activating. We were wondering if this is normally considered in design (neither of us are very experienced).
The pipeline is a raw water line feeding a mine. The line descends down a drift about 3km long and 250m deep. To limit static pressures a pressure reducing valve is located about midway down the drift (125m elevation point). Immediately downstream of the pressure reducing valve is a pressure relief valve set close to the downstream pressure setting of the reducing valve. If the reducing valve fails, the relief valve operates to ensure the static pressures at the bottom of the drift are not excessive.
To illustrate:
/////////z/////////Xo----------------
////////////////// : First 1.5km of pipeline
------------------ : Second 1.5km of pipeline
X: pressure reducing valve
o: pressure relief valve
z: isolation valve
When the reducing valve fails the PRV operates and needs to discharge 100L/second to cause a loss in the '///' section necessary to bring the pressure down at point X to the pressure of the reducing valve's downstream setting. This is a very high flow for the pipeline (normal flow is about 50L/s). The issue is the maximum pressures we had designed for up until this point were for the transients associated with suddenly stopping a flow of 50L/s. Now we had effectively doubled our transient pressure increase!
We did some calculations and worked out that if an operator suddenly stopped the flow at z, they would cause a transient pressure increase that would be beyond the burst pressure of the pipeline.
We solved the issue by putting the relief valve setting up slightly so that it only needed to discharge about 70L/second.
Has anyone else encountered this issue before?
Disclaimer - I used figures of 100L/s and 50L/s to simplify things, the flows were quite different, but the same principle applied.