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Windward and Leeward Pressures

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Ryan H

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Sep 3, 2021
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Hello,
General question here, just caught up in my own thinking and would like some clarifications

when you have a partially enclosed building the GCpi is 0.18 and -0.18

when I calculate pressures for a building I calculate Windward and Leeward both twice, once with 0.18 and again with -0.18. then I combine Windward 0.18 with leeward 0.18 to get my total pressure on the building. I do the same combination with 0.18 to get a second total. then I compare the two totals to determine the governing case at each floor.

my question is: how do I know when to add Pww to Plw and when to subtract Pll from Pww?

see attached below for a screen shot of my calculations. Cell highlighted in yellow is the governing pressures. that Ptotal is Pww(+GCpi) - Plw(+GCpi)

the other Ptotal column not in yellow is Pww(-GCpi) + Plw(-GCpi). if I subtracted these two values I'd be left with the same values as those in the highlighted yellow column which is now leaving me scratching my head

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With the caveat that I'm not an ASCE guy, where I practice you it depends on what you're designing. If full building, i.e. bracing, diaphragms etc, then the interior pressure/suction cancels out except in extenuating circumstances. For design of individual members, i.e. studs, girts, wind posts etc. then you would take whatever is the worst case which is usually exterior pressure and interior suction, or exterior suction and interior pressure. I would never expect that exterior pressure and interior pressure, or vice versa exterior suction and interior suction, to govern since the applied loads cancel a part of each other out.
 
Your second equation should be Pww(-GCpi) - Plw(-GCpi). Both equations should give you the same result. Internal pressure cancels out if the windward pressure and leeward pressure are being added together. If you are having trouble figuring out the signs, figure out the windward external pressure, windward internal pressure, leeward external pressure, and leeward internal pressure and draw each of the individual pressures on their respective surfaces.

Also, your reference for G to SEC 6.5.8.1 is for ASCE 7-05. It should be 26.9.1 for ASCE 7-10.

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okay, I'm sure there are some cases where it doesn't cancel out? If not, what is the reason for calculating both windward and leeward internal and external pressures for partial enclosed buildings?
 
@RyanH...because the worst case prevails.

 
Here are three cases where the internal pressure is relevant for enclosed buildings.
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[li]Roof pressures do not have an opposite surface so the internal pressure does not cancel out.[/li]
[li]A building with an expansion joint where the pressure on the windward wall and leeward wall are resisted by separate lateral systems.[/li]
[li]C&C elements with tributary areas greater than 700 ft² since section 30.2.3 of ASCE 7-10 says that they can be designed using the provisions for MWFRS.[/li]
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