HouseBoy
Structural
- Nov 21, 2005
- 464
Help settle a bet about the capacity of a wood connection:
We have a beam 2) 2x12 #1 SYP that are fastened together with nails. One of the 2x12's extends about 2 1/4" farther than the other and that one 2x12 is supported by 6) 20d nails into a 2)2x6 wood column (#2 SYP) and there is a wood "cleat" underneath the one 2x12 that is nailed. The wood cleat has 2) 20d nails into the 2)2x6 column.
We are trying to ascertin the capacity of the connection.
I think the nial capacity is approximately 185 pounds per nail so roughly the capacity is 8 x 185 = 1480 pounds. The other side of the bet is taking the position that 1) the nail capacity is greater than 185 and 2) the shear capacity of the beam is equal to the shear capacity of BOTH 2x12's together. Remember, only one of the 2x12's is actually connected to the column and it is also supported by (bearing on) the "cleat" with 2 nails in it. The other 2x12 stops just short of any support. I see the shear capacity as equal to 2/3 x 1.5 x 11.25 x 90 =1012.5#. Conceivably this could be increased with a Ch factor equal to 2 for a beam with no splits or checks but I am leery of that with so many nails in it at the end connection. The nailed 2x12 is only lapped over the face of the column by 2 1/4".
I can not find any justification in the 1997 NDS (the one recognized by our building code) for either a greater nail capacity OR the greater shear capacity.
Is anyone familiar with the NDS justification for either position?
BTW the beam is supporting a storage load.
Your thoughts are appreciated.
We have a beam 2) 2x12 #1 SYP that are fastened together with nails. One of the 2x12's extends about 2 1/4" farther than the other and that one 2x12 is supported by 6) 20d nails into a 2)2x6 wood column (#2 SYP) and there is a wood "cleat" underneath the one 2x12 that is nailed. The wood cleat has 2) 20d nails into the 2)2x6 column.
We are trying to ascertin the capacity of the connection.
I think the nial capacity is approximately 185 pounds per nail so roughly the capacity is 8 x 185 = 1480 pounds. The other side of the bet is taking the position that 1) the nail capacity is greater than 185 and 2) the shear capacity of the beam is equal to the shear capacity of BOTH 2x12's together. Remember, only one of the 2x12's is actually connected to the column and it is also supported by (bearing on) the "cleat" with 2 nails in it. The other 2x12 stops just short of any support. I see the shear capacity as equal to 2/3 x 1.5 x 11.25 x 90 =1012.5#. Conceivably this could be increased with a Ch factor equal to 2 for a beam with no splits or checks but I am leery of that with so many nails in it at the end connection. The nailed 2x12 is only lapped over the face of the column by 2 1/4".
I can not find any justification in the 1997 NDS (the one recognized by our building code) for either a greater nail capacity OR the greater shear capacity.
Is anyone familiar with the NDS justification for either position?
BTW the beam is supporting a storage load.
Your thoughts are appreciated.