Wood Corner Beam Connection 4

[reverbz]

Hey Guys,

I have a wood corner beam coming into a column with a beam ea. side. I'm thinking of doing something like this with a "U" plate saddle welded to angles acting as top flange hangers. Is this weld doable? Is there much strength in it? Do you see a better option for the connection? I'm open to suggestions.

 

[ANE91]

Maybe I’m misreading this post, but I see wood, I see nails, and I see welds. Do not bring a welder anywhere near wood. Use Simpson connector plates and use more nails, like you’re already showing.

 

[jerseyshore]

Why don't you have the angled beam sit on top of the column then use skewed face mount hangers for the N/S and E/W beams?

 

[Eng16080]

Maybe I’m misreading this post, but I see wood, I see nails, and I see welds. Do not bring a welder anywhere near wood.

I was assuming OP meant this would be shop welded. I see no reason for field welding here. If that is the intention, though, yeah I agree fully. We had a project once where they were field welding near wood. The building caught on fire and was basically destroyed.

Some comments concerning the connection:

1. Can you use a larger column and support each beam with direct bearing?
2. I don't like that weld at an acute 45 degree angle. Can you do something like this instead where you add a "back plate" and weld the back plate to both the U plate and side angles. You would then be welding at a 135 degree interface which is much more practical. (The back plate wouldn't have to be as wide as drawn. It's exaggerated. )

 

[XR250]

Depending on the load, sometimes I will show an angled wood member (similar to the "back plate" in the prev. post. Connect that to the orthogonal beams with skewed hangers and then hang the diag. beam from that.

 

[jerseyshore]

Depending on the load, sometimes I will show an angled wood member (similar to the "back plate" in the prev. post. Connect that to the orthogonal beams with skewed hangers and then hang the diag. beam from that.

That's a creative idea. Gonna save that for future situations.

 

[Eng16080]

Depending on the load...

I think the loads are a big factor in choosing the best connection. If almost all the load is from the angled beam, I'd probably want a connection like what jerseyshore mentioned. The wood "back plate" also could make sense. Usually I try to support the most heavily loaded member(s) by direct bearing in a case like this. If all beams are similarly and heavily loaded, maybe the steel connector is best.

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[reverbz]

Thanks guys, I definitely like the ideas. That skewed member idea is a good trick @XR250