Yikes-Target Damaged due to Hillside Collapse 1

[JedClampett]

See

https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/t...1&cvid=743b74e8e38e4578af09bd090a21ceec&ei=46

Looks like another segmental retaining wall issue.

 

[sbisteel]

Slope stability failure maybe?

 

[TigerGuy]

If your house was downslope of this, what would you do?

 

[Sym P. le]

As usual, plenty of signs for those who know how to read them, at least from 2015 forward. I confess the advantage of hindsight. Interventions were underway but too little and too late.

Google Maps

At the other end of the property, we see where the fill material was sourced to level the property.

Google Maps - overview

 

[Pinwards]

It looks like they scalped off the top of a hill and filled the edges to make the flat site pad. I read it was some leaking pipes that caused the recent failure, but I would imagine it was settlement or partial slope failure that led to the leaking pipes that then exacerbated the slope failure and the chain reaction kept making both failures worse progressively. I wonder if we'll ever hear the root cause analysis or if it will be buried in court files by lawyers and settled behind the scenes. I would not want to be the geotech, site civil, or contractor on this one. I imagine the store is going to be a total loss.

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[3DDave]

There was a Target near me that used a near vertical wall of interlocking panels to hold the hillside below the store. I think it was a 100 foot x 30 foot section of the panels peeled and fell over. The hill did not move much but there was a large amount of concern. As usual, people who buy ads on TV don't get the TV coverage of their corrective actions where no injuries or major damage is done.

 

[Brian Malone]

Humans can engineer change but with Nature at work 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, stability and longevity are not guaranteed:

https://www.architecturaldigest.com...liff-appear-at-risk-of-falling-into-the-ocean

 

[MTNClimber]

Homes placed on a soft rock bluff by the ocean are here for a good time, not a long time.

The target failure is interesting since the failure plane is pretty far back.

 

[azcats]

Huh...

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.google.com/maps/@38.4185377,-82.2819383,395a,35y,297.37h,31.51t/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu[/url]

 

[Sym P. le]

Given what we've seen so far, one can only wonder, "What else?"

Google Earth

 

[JedClampett]

Unpeeling the onion:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...collapsed-hillside-west-virginia/72664634007/

 

[Sym P. le]

From Jed's link,

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/02/19/target-collapsed-hillside-west-virginia/72664634007/[/URL]]In 2011, the West Virginia Supreme Court reversed a judgement against the general contractor's firm that constructed the store and said they "could not have known that groundwater was the significant contributing cause of the settlement"

Obviously, if the ducks on the pond aren't quaking, the pond doesn't exist. But then again, who was the general and were they a different entity than the site developer. No one wants to be given a pile of loon muck to build on. Who signed off on the geotech post 2011 info?