petrodiesel/biodiesel transportation in cold climates

• Sep 7, 2006

• #2

rmw

Mechanical

Feb 6, 2002

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Rail cars designed for fluids that need heating have steam or heat transfer liquid jacketing attached to or incorporated into the shell.

I googled -jacketed tank cars- and got 83,900 hits.

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• Sep 8, 2006

• #3

epoisses

Chemical

Jun 18, 2004

862

I may be stating the obvious, but if the diesel is meant for use in the same climate, it will in any case be blended with lighter components such that it wouldn't freeze in the car reservoir at night.

 

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• Sep 8, 2006

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BigInch

Petroleum

Jun 21, 2006

15,161

Nope

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• Sep 8, 2006

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curve3104

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May 27, 2004

33

I did the same search, brought up the same hits...none have specs on tanker cars. Fuel oil will definately gel in northern climates, especially when we are talking near Canada. That's why they have heating coils and insulation. Just need to get a general idea of how these cars are heated, what kind of system is used, and relative heating loads.

 

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• Sep 8, 2006

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BigInch

Petroleum

Jun 21, 2006

15,161

Viscosity is about 10.5 cP at -10ºC and it starts gelling around there too. Bio should start gelling at a higher temp, maybe -7 -5ºC or so.

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• Sep 8, 2006

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BigInch

Petroleum

Jun 21, 2006

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Bio might even be higher. Just remembered Olive oil is frozen solid at -10ºC.

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• Sep 8, 2006

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curve3104

Mechanical

May 27, 2004

33

Yes, I have an idea of temperatures to be maintained...question is the method. Need some details on how the tanker cars are heated.

 

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• Sep 8, 2006

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BigInch

Petroleum

Jun 21, 2006

15,161

Oh ya.

http://www.dot.state.fl.us/rail/Pub...eeds/appb.pdf#search="rail car heating petro"

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