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equivalent rectangular section for a round concrete beam 1

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nickky

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Mar 24, 2006
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Hi everyone,

What is the best fitting equivalent rectangular section for a circular concrete beam?

I am designing a concrete pile which is loaded laterally. The pile has circular cross-section but I design it as a rectangular beam. I do have some hand-outs giving some equivalent rectangular beam dimensions for each diameter but I was wondering if there is any academic/practical article which would give a scentific based solution for this question.
 
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Solve for the bending strength of the circular section with associated reinforcement. Compare to a square section with the bending about the diagonal. This is the weakest axis for the square section with equal steel in all four faces.
 
I have seen a book that mentions this, I will get back to you tommorow with the name of the method.
 
I don't believe there is any recognized conversion. Hate to say this, but you probably whould be analyzing these piles as circular sections. If one were to fail, you'd have a hard time defending a conversion analysis thats not officially recognized. CRSI publishes a calculation method for circular sections in the CRSI Handbook.
 
It is called the charles whitney method from 1942.

2 layers of half the reinforcement 0.67Ds apart, and a concrete section 0.8D deep by (As/0.8D) wide?

This is an approximation, and as such you should always ensure that you have at least 10% or so up your sleeve for any inaccuracies. I would also not that I imagine it would be very inacurate if there were any significant axial loads.

You really need some design charts in this country, this problem would be done in 5 minutes with circular column design charts (like the ones I used in Australia) I havent seen any here.

Check out this web site to see if you can find a spreadsheet (check it before you use it):

 
Aren't interaction charts available for circular sections? Do you not have a program such as enercalc? It will design the reinforcement for a circular section rather quickly. I did this recently. The only conversion I had to make to a "rectangular section" was during the shear checks. There is no clear 'd' for a circular section. At that point, for the shear check, ACI gives guidance in 11.3.3.
If you don't have a program like enercalc to design the flexural reinforcing, I would look for those interaction charts for circular sections.
 
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