ndtkansas
Aerospace
- Feb 16, 2009
- 10
I have found a condition that I hope can be logically explained. We inspect 17-4 material using magnetic particle. Periodically we find a condition known as alloy segregation or banding in the material. It generally is in the center 1/3 of the material running the entire length. Banding is usually retained austenite or un-tempered/un-hardened martensite. The banded area usually has high concentrations of nickel and other alloying elements. We have found that after the inspection, demagnetization of the part with an AC coil, verification of demagnetization using a field indicator and part cleaning with acetone, that if we dip the unmagnetized part in the magnetic particle fluid, iron particles are attracted to the banded area.
1. Is it possible that due to significant differences in permeability between the banded area and the surrounding martensitic structure, that different hysteresis exist thus making it impossible to demagnetize the banded structure?
2. Why wouldn’t the magnetism in the banded structure be detected with a field indicator? Is it due to the fact that the field remains circular thus no flux leakage and if so, why wouldn’t the field convert to a longitudinal field if was passed repeatedly through a coil?
3. Because of the extreme differences in permeability, is it possible the magnetic field in the banded area vs. the surrounding area would always be 90 degrees out of phase with each other?
It would be my goal to not only explain this to the NDT Layman but also mathematically explain the condition.
1. Is it possible that due to significant differences in permeability between the banded area and the surrounding martensitic structure, that different hysteresis exist thus making it impossible to demagnetize the banded structure?
2. Why wouldn’t the magnetism in the banded structure be detected with a field indicator? Is it due to the fact that the field remains circular thus no flux leakage and if so, why wouldn’t the field convert to a longitudinal field if was passed repeatedly through a coil?
3. Because of the extreme differences in permeability, is it possible the magnetic field in the banded area vs. the surrounding area would always be 90 degrees out of phase with each other?
It would be my goal to not only explain this to the NDT Layman but also mathematically explain the condition.