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Using Brick Veneer for Small Canopy

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Guastavino

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Jan 29, 2014
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Hi All,

I've searched similar threads and seen mixed answers. I'm curious what you all think about using a veneer for a small canopy. I see this all the time in Pre-engineered type canopies (Such as mapes). Mapes folks usually put a note to make sure the brick veneer can take the vertical load. My thoughts are that this adds around 4'*35psf=140#/ft, or 3.5' equivalent height of brick to the wall. As for the lateral component, it will be minimal.

Practically, I'm not worried about this at all. Code-wise, I am worried I'm overlooking something. I know veneers aren't considered structural, but brick weighs 40 psf, and so they are in a lot of ways structural whether we admit it or not.

Would you all sweat this and push back on the architect (who wants to match an existing canopy directly adjacent that used an old school 8"cmu/4"brick 'composite' wall), or would you use judgment to assume the detailing will work?

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I'd roll with your proposal. I'd check the brick for axial load and in plane shear and assume that any lateral load away from the building at the connection gets transferred to the backup wall.

I like to debate structural engineering theory -- a lot. If I challenge you on something, know that I'm doing so because I respect your opinion enough to either change it or adopt it.
 
It is done all the time. I don't love it since the veneer is not structural, but there is no reason it couldn't work.

Make sure and check the veneer for tension forces (the low roof pulling away from the building). It may not be a bad idea to tie into the CMU for just this force.

When I am working on a problem, I never think about beauty but when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong.

-R. Buckminster Fuller
 
Same here. Have done this. Make sure you have considered the proper wind load condition for this.
 
Thanks all. I figured I wasn't too crazy. The existing canopy adjacent to it has been there for years so it was going to be a hard sell to convince why it wouldn't work anymore. I still don't love it, but I'm glad I don't have to fight that battle too.
 
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