Fillet welding on skewed plate

Any reason a key can't be left to cast the spandrel into the column? This seems like a corrosion nightmare, plus there will be some torsion on the weld group frmo gravity loads.

I agree with CWE's concerns and yours. Seems like a terible detail.

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First, the 1/4 weld is only effective to 3/16" and I would want to treat the connection like an angle clip by returning the welds top and bottom.

I get the idea of allowing the out of plane bending to flex, but, when the top connection expands, it will pull the spandrel into the garage due to geometry.

Is this just the top connection? I think the preferred detail I've seen for this (assuming no pockets in the column)is to weld a steel corbel to the column (HSS2x6" or so), pocket the spandrel to hide the corbel and use a coil rod to bolt the spandrel to the corbel.

Teguci,

Can you show your sketch how you can use a coil rod for the connection?
Is there any reason not to use a threaded rod instead of a coil rod?

Thanks for your input!

Its been a while but here is my recollection.

The coil rod or threaded rod needs to connect through an oversized hole to allow for movement and the pocket will need a cover.

The horseshoe plate sketch at the bottom would work better than the skewed flat plate detail you are currently looking at for dealing with in plane and out of plane loads. Its meant more for shear wall to shear wall connections but I think it could be adapted.