Continue to Site

Eng-Tips is the largest engineering community on the Internet

Intelligent Work Forums for Engineering Professionals

  • Congratulations MintJulep on being selected by the Eng-Tips community for having the most helpful posts in the forums last week. Way to Go!

backing plate in MEPs .

Status
Not open for further replies.

malikasal

Structural
Nov 17, 2013
130
hey guys,

i am designing a moment end plate connection and i am considering adding backing plates for the column flange, now in the Euro-code the backing plate is added from the inside (see snapshot),
Capture_lndjvy.png


my question is this, if we added a plate at the outside of the flange, how will the behavior change in this situation, do you guys think that it will be different form the concept in Euro-code, if yes, how??




ôIf you don't build your dream someone will hire you to help build theirs.ö

Tony A. Gaskins Jr.
 
Replies continue below

Recommended for you

If placed between the flange and the end plate and its not connected via welding to the face of the column flange it not actually going to do anything, it just moves with the end plate and you'll only get yielding in the original column flange.

Because they work to increase the effective plate thickness on the tension bolt group my understanding is that they don't even need to be welded/fixed on the back side, however if on the outside I can see the welds and the forces they are subject to needing quite careful consideration to ensure they force the additional yieldlines and hence capacity assumed by Eurocode.

Having said that I've never ever seen them put on the outside of the flange, and I'd like to see some research that considered this specific arrangement before departing from the Eurocode requirements which are pretty tried and tested.
 
Malikasal:
The whole idea of the backing pls. is to improve the way the col. flgs. react to the loads that the bolts of the moment end pl. impart on the col. flg. With the backer pls. on the inside the load distribution to the col. flg. is improved. While with the backer pls. on the outside, the bolt loads to the col. flg. are really unchanged (not improved) and additionally, the pls. must be extended to fill the gap at the compression bolts. In the basic configuration, the bolt loads essentially use the col. flg. as a cantilever (canti.) off the col. “k” area (flg./web radius area), with canti. length equal to the bolt gage dimension +/-; and these bolt forces are distributed over some col. height (length) greater than the vert. bolt spacing. The backer pls. improve the above picture. The backer pls. on the outside do none of these improvements, they are just spacers.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Part and Inventory Search

Sponsor