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aggierockdoc

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May 11, 2020
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I'm in the process of starting a new house build and I'm not getting a logical argument from my architect/engineer that explains his foundation design.

My question is whether i can pour my floor slab straight onto either bedrock or a thin layer of sand with an overlying DPC, or whether i have to excavate, put down a compacted soil then lay the slab. NB The slab will be supported on its edges by foundation "placas" of 0.8m x 0.25m.

To answer that, here are the details:

I live in a seismically active region and the property is to be built cut into a slope with a "basement" level containing the bedrooms and with the floor above on both the basement and on ground level higher up the slope, and as shown in the diagram.
elevation_kjcyqa.jpg


My requirements are a foundation design that:

[ul]
[li]provides sensible engineering properties given the seismic design code[/li]
[li]avoids wasting money on unnecessary foundation excavation and refill[/li]
[li]protects the house from damp - particularly the basement level[/li]
[/ul]

We are building onto rock not soil. The rock is a rigid, but fairly soft marly limestone. The rock can be excavated without blasting using an excavator. I would estimate a UCS of 2 to 5MPa for the rock. It dips at around 30 degrees into the slope not away from it. The water table is around 40m below the site level(we are on a hill). Drainage around the basement level will be achieved using a drain pipe at foundation placa level ie below the floor by about 20cm.
We never have frost.

My architect proposes excavating under where the the floor slab goes then back-filling with an appropriate loose material and compacting.
foundation_avpxjo.jpg

I ask, why excavate then refill? Why not just lay the slab straight onto the bedrock? (possibly with a thin layer of sand to protect the DPC membrane).

The rock has already been cut flat. It is pretty uniform with layers of very similar physical and structural characteristics. I plan to cut trenches to lay 0.8m x 0.25m foundation "placas" to support the edges of the floor slab.

What are the hazards of pouring my floor slab onto either bedrock or a thin layer of sand with an overlying DPC? Suggested section shown here with cut as a blue line.
foundation_cut_vff4oq.jpg


Any cogent advice appreciated.

Stephen
 
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I live in a relatively low hazard seismic area with extremely hard rock so my experience with seismic resistant building design is limited but I do know that placing fill between the rock and the foundation will soften the motions and your buried utilities will likely stand a better chance of surviving. I did notice on your drawing the weeping tile appears to be above the footing and the foundation wall is eccentrically loaded inside the half width of the footing, that is typically not the case in my jurisdiction as presented below.

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One factor to consider is comfort in cold weather, assuming your area does get cold. That comfort can be nice. If you do excavate the rock some, a layer of sand on that will provide a smooth level support for 2" of closed cell Styrofoam insulation. Then the slab. You won't regret having the insulation.


One more comment.
For footing drains use a pipe with holes 1/4" diam in the lower quarter only. Then backfill with concrete sand (not gravel) Gravel does not filter dirt an can plug the drains.
 
aggierockdoc:

And install a vapor barrier between the bottom of the slab and the top of the sand leveling course (Not under the sand!) Also, in my area the masonry units for a 3m tall wall would be at least 30cm in width. Is radon gas a concern in your area?

Regards,

DB

 
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