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Limitations of yield line analysis 2

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bugbus

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Aug 14, 2018
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I recently had to find the capacity of a rectangular steel plate (300 x 165 mm), rigidly clamped along two edges as shown in the picture below. It is a 25 mm thick plate with yield strength of 250 MPa. The yellow hatched area is a rubber bearing pad which applies a uniform pressure onto the plate. I should point out that while this looks like a homework problem, it is a real steel bracket that I have been asked to review. There are other components of the bracket that I have left out for simplicity, but the clamped edge conditions are well justified in this case.

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I could see two potential failure modes. The first (see below) was the corner of the plate folding downwards with some unknown dimension 'x'. I won't post my calculations here because they are lengthy and messy, but solving for minimum failure pressure yields x = 300 mm (i.e. the full width of the plate). This gave a pressure of 17.2 MPa over the bearing pad. The work done by each patch load was calculated based on the total force acting on the area multiplied by the deflection at the centroid of that area.

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The other potential failure mode is shown below, with the plate yielding along the clamped edges and also diagonally, again with unknown 'x'. This was solved to give x = 136 mm, with basically a 45 degree angle for the diagonal yield line. Critical pressure is 13.6 MPa over the bearing pad, and therefore appears to be the most critical case.

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At this point I was satisfied that this would be the critical failure pressure on the bearing pad, but I wanted to confirm this with a nonlinear FE model. The failure mode predicted by the FE model is shown below. The pink regions indicate where the full plastic capacity of the plate has been reached. The limiting pressure appears to be about 10 MPa (roughly 75% of the predicted failure pressure based on the yield line analysis). What is immediately apparent is that the yield lines do not extend to the corner of the plate but gradually turn inwards and meet somewhere in the middle. There is also no obvious yield line in a diagonal direction. In fact much of the region in the middle remains elastic even after relatively large deflection. The FE analysis did not capture the post-peak behaviour because it was a load-controlled analysis. Possibly the peak pressure may have been closer to 11 MPa or so.

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My question then is: how could this sort of failure mode be predicted by yield line analysis? I understand that yield line analysis is an upper bound method and therefore is no guarantee that the critical case has been checked; however, when there are potentially limitless failure modes to be checked, how can we be sure that we have selected the correct one? For simple cases like continuous beams, I can see that yield line analysis can be performed with confidence. But with plates, especially with irregular loading or support conditions, it seems that nonlinear FEA is the only way to be sure.

Any thoughts?
 
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What happens to the pressure on the plate when the steel yields? Does the bearing pad deform and transfer the load to the stiff part of the plate? Do you have a lot of these? or is this a 'one off' deal? Can you simplify the problem and use a 1-1/4" plate? Are you using Sx for the plate? or Zx?

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dik, given that the rubber bearing pad is quite thick and quite soft, I would consider that the pressure remains approximately uniform even as the plate deforms. However you are probably correct to a point.

This is a one-off type bracket. There would certainly be no issue with increasing the plate thickness.

Sx is being used for the yield line analysis.
 
For North American readers, I believe Gusmurr meant the plastic section modulus when referring to Sx as that is the Australian notation.

Given the choice, I would learn nonlinear FEA rather than yield line analysis. Going outside the published solutions opens up the risk shown by Gusmurr. Even older published solutions weren't always the critical case.
 
This looks like a corner lever effect. Considering an additional 10% margin has been proposed for yield line analyses with corner level effects, though I realize this still does not match your FEA result.
 

I would seriously question that assumption. It's as if the pad is non existant, and the loading would be the same as if the pad were not there... one off, then just use an elastic analysis. Why Sx for plastic design? There are so many 'fuzzy' things about your approach. I've been using plastic design for 50 years; it's a tool, one of many.

My first 'hiccup' with plastic design was a result of using it to design a concrete flat slab due to irregular column spacing (I was correct, but the AHJ had the 'power'), and I was a rookie at the time. There are some real interesting spin-offs resulting from that.

What type of beam is it?

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Steve... thanks for the correction.

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Just to clarify, I used the plastic section modulus (a.k.a. “Sx”). Hope there was no confusion.

The elastic limit of the plate (i.e. the point where yielding of the extreme fibres first occurs) is reached at approximately 40% of the ultimate load predicted by the FE model. This yielding occurs in a very localised region. I don’t see why plastic analysis would not be a suitable approach for the design of a bracket like this.

In any case, the point of my post wasn’t to try to refine the design, but instead to try to resolve the difference between the yield line analysis and the FE analysis. As I said before there would be no issue with using a simpler analysis to design the plate (e.g. elastically) and adopting a slightly thicker plate.

 
Based on the FE analysis, I wanted to try to replicate the failure mode a bit more closely with the yield line analysis (see below). The main point about the below failure mode is that there are now at least two independent parameters that have to be considered, which makes it much harder to solve as a min/max problem. So I have made a best guess what these dimensions are based on the FE model.

I agree with Flotsam7018 that there is a corner lever effect here, and the model does predict uplift at the corner.

This gives a failure stress of 13.9 MPa, which is slightly greater than the original failure mode I assumed. With some further refinement, I am sure that this could be brought down to below 13.6 MPa, but I have no doubt that it would not get anywhere near the 10 MPa predicted by the FE model.

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The analysis weights heavy on the modelling of the 'sponge' material. If the supporting beam was a W Section, I suspect strongly that the FEM model and stresses, will be similar to a point load applied a couple of inches from the end of the W beam, distributed over a few square inches, without any 'sponge' material if the sponge material is as you've described.

Very often, FEM modelling is predicated by the modelling... one of my first court cases involved a prof modelling a concrete dowel and ending up with -13ksi concrete stresses at the interface of the concrete and the rebar. He couldn't explain to the court, convincingly, what the effect of the concrete yielding would have on the FEM model. That story has a lot of spin-offs, too.

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The steel plate supports the edge of a concrete slab. The shorter clamped edge is actually a line of symmetry with a steel stiffener beneath.
 
That's a bunch different...

I will have to think about the effects of that. How is the plate clamped at the two edges? and how rigid is the beam for flexure and torsion? Because the loading is relatively undefined; I would not be using plastic design.
Even FEM can be a little iffy and modelling will be difficult.

The concrete beam is only 165mm (7") wide?

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It’s difficult to describe the arrangement without showing drawings, but it’s sort of beside the point anyway. I agree that the loading on the bearing pad will become less uniform as the plate deforms and will be attracted more towards the stiffer regions.

The purpose of the thread was to try to figure out the limitations of the yield line analysis based on a simple example with idealised loading and support conditions. The other plates forming the bracket, the slab above, etc etc are irrelevant.

Let’s ignore the fact that there is a bearing pad and a separate structure above and just consider the plate in isolation with idealised conditions.
 
I would not have considered the internal yield line extending all the way to the corner, but a skewed condition to one side of the support. In addition, I would consider a 10% minimum decrease in capacity for the corner lever effect (in addition to whatever safety/resistance factor you are using).

However, for situations such as these with asymmetric boundary conditions creating an FE model is probably more reliable. For symmetric conditions yield line analysis has shown to be quite accurate, the simple case of prying action, the method presented by Bo Dowswell (2011), and the equations in the AISC 15th Ed. Manual for Plate Elements Subjected to Out-of-Plane loads are all good examples of YLA providing reliable capacities.


 
gusmurr said:
The shorter clamped edge is actually a line of symmetry with a steel stiffener beneath.

So the edges are rigid supports that can resist full plate section capacity? The original plan view show the long and short supported edges as ////////////, which I've always understood to mean simple supports in the context of plate supoorts. Rigid supports I generally see drawn as XXXXXXXXXXX.
 
Tomfh said:
So the edges are rigid supports that can resist full plate section capacity? The original plan view show the long and short supported edges as ////////////, which I've always understood to mean simple supports in the context of plate supoorts. Rigid supports I generally see drawn as XXXXXXXXXXX.

Thanks Tomfh, noted. Yes, these are rigid supports and can support the plastic section capacity.
 
How about this yield line (yellow)?

It's essentially an intermediate state between your original cases 1 and 2.

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Tomfh said:
How about this yield line (yellow)?

I believe this is on the right track. I calculate 12.4 MPa for the failure pressure. So far this is the best guess.
 
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12.9 MPa for the above suggestion, still not the best.

At this point the calculation is too tedious. That took around 30 minutes to solve by hand, with the help of a CAD sketch for the geometry.

If I ever get some free time, I think it would be a fun project to automate this, maybe have the ability to drag and drop nodes and yield lines and play around with different possibilities.
 
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