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Connection b/w collector / column and braced frame

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Samwise Gamgee

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Oct 7, 2021
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Are there any special detailing requirements for the connection to transfer both gravity loads and axial thru force. I am just checking the shear tab connection for gravity loads(shear) and the axial thru force it will dump into the braced beam. Is that enough ? As long as the connection works, can I rationalize by saying ,it will pass that load directly into the braced beam thru the HSS column ? The collector members pushes the column , which in-turn pushes the force into the braced beam ?

Or do I need to design it as a Moment connection to provide a continuous load path between collector beam to braced beam via the column


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I'd have a look at the comments phamENG made in your other thread. He gave you a bunch of good things to look at.

I'm also a tad confused by your last line. You don't need to design it as a moment connection to provide a continuous path. I mean if the load goes where you want it'll be continuous, right?

In general you have to look at each connection individually (so both sides of the column) for the relevant checks and then the column itself. If you are putting a good amount of axial force into the middle of an HSS column it may want to buckle especially if it's thin-walled. So you want to check that. And if it's not so great you may want to consider a through-plate (expensive) or lowering the column so your collectors meet on top of it.

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Thank you for the response. I have checked the column to make sure that it doesn't buckle (I had to increase the thickness of the post to 1/2" to make this work). I understand that it doesn't need to be a moment connection. But what I am not completely sure about is how the localized force (red arrow in the screenshot) get transferred to the other side of the HSS and continue the load there as blue arrow)

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Depends on what the connection looks like. Let's say, for example, it's just a simple shear tab. Then the load goes from beam to shear tab, shear tab to HSS wall, wall bending to side walls in compression, from side walls back to wall bending on the blue arrow side, wall bending into blue arrow shear tab, into the beam.

For HSS columns, and the magnitude of load you're talking about, a through plate connection may be easiest and most robust.
 
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