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Materials
- Jun 7, 2023
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I have reviewed some of the previous advice from 'Compositepro', so my questions are mostly directed at them but please anyone feel free to comment.
I am researching optimal process parameters for a phenolic type prepreg with a polycondensation curing reaction.
I believe the best way to reduce porosity in the resin is to drive out as much water before the point of gelation. Trying to get my head around the difference between a vacuum bagging & vacuum chamber, and when the resin will start to boil in a vacuum bag depending on the pressure/temperature. For example if the resin was held at 60C, with vac bag recording 28inHg, but the autoclave pressure was set to 2bar - would the resin boil?
Then onto the subject of venting, when would it make the most sense to vent with these types of resin? The resin gels in around 15minute at 100°C, so I'd prefer to vent at a lower temperature, but then would the benefits from boiling the volatiles be lost?
It was mentioned that 'traps to condense and collect these volatiles do not work under vacuum' - is this because the water will boil within the vacuum trap?
You talked about venting vacuum at 20psig being bad practice if the resin is not at temperature - if you were to do this on a de-bulked panel, have you wasted time de-bulking the plies?
Finally, with compression moulding - again the the aim would be to boil off volatiles before the gelation point. This could be achieved by burping the press at temperatures/pressures close to 100C. Then apply an absolute pressure which ensures the boiling point of water is above the cure temperature to prevent unwanted volatilization from the additional water being evolved in the curing reaction?
I am researching optimal process parameters for a phenolic type prepreg with a polycondensation curing reaction.
I believe the best way to reduce porosity in the resin is to drive out as much water before the point of gelation. Trying to get my head around the difference between a vacuum bagging & vacuum chamber, and when the resin will start to boil in a vacuum bag depending on the pressure/temperature. For example if the resin was held at 60C, with vac bag recording 28inHg, but the autoclave pressure was set to 2bar - would the resin boil?
Then onto the subject of venting, when would it make the most sense to vent with these types of resin? The resin gels in around 15minute at 100°C, so I'd prefer to vent at a lower temperature, but then would the benefits from boiling the volatiles be lost?
It was mentioned that 'traps to condense and collect these volatiles do not work under vacuum' - is this because the water will boil within the vacuum trap?
You talked about venting vacuum at 20psig being bad practice if the resin is not at temperature - if you were to do this on a de-bulked panel, have you wasted time de-bulking the plies?
Finally, with compression moulding - again the the aim would be to boil off volatiles before the gelation point. This could be achieved by burping the press at temperatures/pressures close to 100C. Then apply an absolute pressure which ensures the boiling point of water is above the cure temperature to prevent unwanted volatilization from the additional water being evolved in the curing reaction?