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Getting K(Modulus of Subgrade Reaction) from CBR values(by CD225 eq2.4) for use in TR34 Calculation 2

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JLangdon

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Oct 3, 2022
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I have a project where the SI gives a CBR value of 2.9%.

I have seen that there is an approximation in CD225 stating:

E = 17.6(CBR)^0.64
where:
E is the estimated subgrade surface modulus(MPa)& CBR is the California bearing ratio (CBR) of the subgrade.

I know TR66 says "For ground-supported floors, the design process requires the measurement
of the modulus of subgrade reaction 'k'. Derivation of the value of k from the
California bearing ratio (CBR) tests is not ordinarily acceptable." however there is no scope for more plate loading tests.

Can anyone confirm to derive K, the modulus of sugrade reaction (N/mm2/mm) the formula is as follows:

E = 17.9 (2.9)^0.64 = 35.38 MPa or N/mm2, therefore K = E/1000 = 0.0353 N/mm2/mm for use in calculating the slab capacity in flexure to TR34


 
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@JLangdon (Structural),

Below find my points.

- I did not see before such a formula (E = 17.6(CBR)^0.64 ) which E is function of CBR and IMO, it is not a good idea to predict Ks values acc. to CBR.
- The soil modulus is a function of material property, density, water content etc. The following figure is copy and paste from BOWLES.
Es_values_d6tg3x.jpg


- CBR is a material property and does not change with compaction, density , water content.CBR values for common soil types according to the USCS, for example: clay around 2%, sand from 7% (poorly graded) to 10% (well graded), well graded sandy gravel 15%, clayey sand 5-20%, silty gravel 20-60%, gravel from 30-60% poorly-graded to 40-80% if well-graded.

- However, still your calculation for E = 17.9 (2.9)^0.64 = 35.38 MPa or N/mm2 seems reasonable assuming medium density clay. But the calculation of Ks is something else. For example Meyerhof suggests Ks=Es/(B(1-µ^2). Assuming B 1000 mm , µ=0.3 for unsaturated clay, Ks=35.38/(1000*(1-0.3^2)=0.038 N/mm3 = 38000 kN/m3
- The foundations are not sensitive to the Ks values. If you look to the following ref. Ks is btw 32000-80000 for normally consolidated clay . You may choose say 40000 kN/m3.

I will suggest you to look for Ks calculations;
- Bowles J.E.-Foundation Analysis and Design
- Iain Alasdair MacLeod Modern structural analysis modelling process and guidance ,

My opinion..





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It appears you desire a value for the modulus of subgrade reaction (k), but are starting with a conversion from CBR to “subgrade surface modulus”, which is not the same as k, and has different units.
I believe it is acceptable to determine a k value from CBR, even though CBR is primarily a strength property.
You could use the on-line calculator at which calculates for a CBR of 2.9, k=98 pci
 
Retrograde's linked document shows various approaches used, including the relationship in the original post.
But, this document appears to apply to only "subgrade modulus", which is a resilient modulus, not the same as modulus of subgrade reaction.

Below are some equations cited, that give results in pci:

ACPA equation: k=53.438 x CBR^0.5719
FAA equation: k=(1500 x CBR/26)^0.7788

That ACPA equation appears to be what is used by the on-line calculator I linked above.

This ASCE paper describes an updated method, I believe adopted by FAA, I could only view the first page online:

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