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Basketball Court Fiasco

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We were the EOR’s on a half basketball court for a high-end residence. Due to significant site issues, the foundation walls got thicker. Now that the project is almost finished, it was discovered that the 3-Point line is short because of the increased foundation/wall thicknesses. The owner is obviously pissed. Not sure if a lawsuit will ensue (no pun intended). Do y’all think we have any legitimate exposure? (other than just getting thrown into a shotgun suit.) Seems like an Architect/GC issue. The Architect bowed out pretty early in the process though.
 
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Unless painting the lines on the floor was part of your scope I would think you're in the clear.

 
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How short?

btw "pissed" in some places means drunk....

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LittleInch said:
How short?

btw "pissed" in some places means drunk....
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Not sure actually how short it is. I'm sure i will find out if this become an issue for us!

The owner may be both - who knows about people's personal lives!

 
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Wouldn’t the 3 pt line be measured from the center of the basket? And not from a wall? Something doesn’t make sense.
 
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SWComposites said:
Wouldn’t the 3 pt line be measured from the center of the basket? And not from a wall? Something doesn’t make sense.
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I suppose so. I heard this secondhand so not sure what is really happening other than the court is too small.
 
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Sounds like the back wall is too close to the basket, thus, the 3-point line is too close to the wall.
 
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I think the Gym is too narrow so it is affecting the arc of the line.
 
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Ok, so this is an internal court which has been squeezed widthway due to thicker walls?

There seems to be many possible dimensions for the 3pt line. tell them you used the smallest one....
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Ok, so this is an internal court which has been squeezed widthway due to thicker walls? There seems to be many possible dimensions for the 3pt line. tell them you used the smallest one
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Correct.

Obviously we were not involved in painting or the design of the court striping.
It really comes down to the court itself is not regulation width. Should we have known that when we increased the thickness of the foundation walls?
 
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No legal basis for this but if it means anything I would say no, your standard of care does not include knowing how structural elements impact basketball court dimensions. This is why we have an Architect. They are supposed to know impacts of changes on other non-structural elements. What are they there for if not that? It's their mess.
 
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No legal basis for this but if it means anything I would say no, your standard of care does not include knowing how structural elements impact basketball court dimensions. This is why we have an Architect. They are supposed to know impacts of changes on other non-structural elements. What are they there for if not that? It's their mess.
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Makes sense. The Arch. quit early on in the job so I suppose it is the GC's issue or the Owner as they did not hire a replacement Arch.
 
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Wait, this is for a "basketball court for a high-end residence".

So, not an arena, and not a facility where competitive leagues play? What's riding on the dimensions of this court? A regulation court size and floor marking is only an issue when a "regulation" game is being played by members of a competitive league. If this is just an afternoon sport among the condo neighbors, what's the point?
 
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It's also the definition of a "1st World Problem"....

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What kind of condo unit has room for a private half court?

Knowing who XR's clients usually are, this is probably on somebody's estate. If they have the money to put a half court in their bunkerbasement they have money to sic a lawyer on XR250 for sport. I think it's a reasonable concern on his part. Even if it gets thrown out, it's an expensive headache.
 
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Yup, pham nailed it. Rich customer - obvs.
This is a perfect reason why we avoid putting plan dimensions on our drawings.
 
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