CostasV
Mechanical
- May 29, 2003
- 126
Hello everyone,
We have a 50 mm diameter, API 5L Gr B, not thermally insulated, 2 m long, pipe with about 5mm wall thickness. The pipe is positioned straight vertical (free of constraints in the long direction) with the upper end open at the atmosphere, and the bottom end is welded a valve which is connected to a similar pipe which is used to blow down transmission gas pipelines operating at about 50 to 60 bar.
During blow down, because of the sudden drop of pressure, there is a sudden drop of temperature (a rule of thumb says 0.5 deg C per 1 bar) of about 25 to 30 deg C. We confirm it by noticing the ice that is build on the external wall due to atmospheric humitidy.
The phenomenon is impressive. It also happens at the moment when nothing is allowed to go wrong (gas released, man being beside the valve , etc)
I would like to find out if the temperature drop has any major effects to the pipe strength and if yes is there a limited number of cycle (temp drops) that the pipe can undergo.
I have tried thermal analysis, using JL Analyser 8.0 from AutoFEA Engineering Software Technology Inc. and came up with the result that maximum Von Mises stress due to ambient temperature difference (inside/outside of 100 deg F, convection film coeff in BTU/in^2/s/F inside=80 and outside=1) is 10 times the maximum Von Mises stress due to inside pressure of 40 bar.
The questions :
1. Is there a formula (not numerical analysis) of calculating the maximum stress on the pipe wall caused by inside/outside wall temperature differences.
2. Has anyone faced similar situation, and what to do.
Thank you in advance.
Costas
We have a 50 mm diameter, API 5L Gr B, not thermally insulated, 2 m long, pipe with about 5mm wall thickness. The pipe is positioned straight vertical (free of constraints in the long direction) with the upper end open at the atmosphere, and the bottom end is welded a valve which is connected to a similar pipe which is used to blow down transmission gas pipelines operating at about 50 to 60 bar.
During blow down, because of the sudden drop of pressure, there is a sudden drop of temperature (a rule of thumb says 0.5 deg C per 1 bar) of about 25 to 30 deg C. We confirm it by noticing the ice that is build on the external wall due to atmospheric humitidy.
The phenomenon is impressive. It also happens at the moment when nothing is allowed to go wrong (gas released, man being beside the valve , etc)
I would like to find out if the temperature drop has any major effects to the pipe strength and if yes is there a limited number of cycle (temp drops) that the pipe can undergo.
I have tried thermal analysis, using JL Analyser 8.0 from AutoFEA Engineering Software Technology Inc. and came up with the result that maximum Von Mises stress due to ambient temperature difference (inside/outside of 100 deg F, convection film coeff in BTU/in^2/s/F inside=80 and outside=1) is 10 times the maximum Von Mises stress due to inside pressure of 40 bar.
The questions :
1. Is there a formula (not numerical analysis) of calculating the maximum stress on the pipe wall caused by inside/outside wall temperature differences.
2. Has anyone faced similar situation, and what to do.
Thank you in advance.
Costas