LUGuy
Structural
- Dec 17, 2003
- 34
I am trying to justify some preliminary comments to a client purchasing a building constructed around 1905-1910. The roof steel is sloped at about 20 degrees with a 5" concrete slab cast in place above and around the steel beams. The beams are 8" deep rolled steel with a lower flange of 1/4" x 5" width. They span about 25ft (!) and are spaced 8' on center. (The steel doesn't show up in any of AISC's historic databases!)
For dead load alone, the steel is stressed up to about 45ksi. Snow load would add another 20-25ksi on top of that. Keep in mind this has been in place for about 100 years. There is no sign of cracking in the concrete anywhere. Estimated deflection is about 4 inches for dead load only. This matches the field condition which varies from 2" to 6" beam to beam.
Adding supports mid-span is statically a good solution, but it doesn't relieve the current overstress in the steel. Given the history and observation of the building, is there any way to justify leaving the current overstress in place? If 100 years of abuse hasn't caused a problem, its hard to say that adding supports at mid-span isn't enough.
Only material sampling could verify this, but I am thinking that if the additional 50% stress caused by snow hasn't caused any (observable) failure, then perhaps the dead load stresses are within some justifiable range? (Wishful thinking, I guess..)
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Miscmetals
For dead load alone, the steel is stressed up to about 45ksi. Snow load would add another 20-25ksi on top of that. Keep in mind this has been in place for about 100 years. There is no sign of cracking in the concrete anywhere. Estimated deflection is about 4 inches for dead load only. This matches the field condition which varies from 2" to 6" beam to beam.
Adding supports mid-span is statically a good solution, but it doesn't relieve the current overstress in the steel. Given the history and observation of the building, is there any way to justify leaving the current overstress in place? If 100 years of abuse hasn't caused a problem, its hard to say that adding supports at mid-span isn't enough.
Only material sampling could verify this, but I am thinking that if the additional 50% stress caused by snow hasn't caused any (observable) failure, then perhaps the dead load stresses are within some justifiable range? (Wishful thinking, I guess..)
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Miscmetals