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  1. bottle77

    Forklift Safety Keypad

    Something that a transportation workplace I worked for used for pre-tripping vans that workers used might work: https://www.zonarsystems.com/solutions/2010-electronic-verified-inspection-report/ I'm not sure if it is a custom set-up or if there might be ones specifically for the vehicle you're...
  2. bottle77

    Interpretation of OSHA standard about diked area for flammable liquid storage

    I have trouble understanding this part of OSHA's code about dikes: 1910.106(b)(2)(vii)(c)(1) Except as provided in subdivision (2) of this subdivision, the volumetric capacity of the diked area shall not be less than the greatest amount of liquid that can be released from the largest tank...
  3. bottle77

    Help with Storage Tank Bolt Failure

    Update: Told the boss I was concerned about the process of getting the tanks replaced, and quoted some concerns brought up in this thread, and he said he'd pass on my concerns to the engineer he used to design the concrete base. They also were the ones who suggested the anchoring scheme. So...
  4. bottle77

    Help with Storage Tank Bolt Failure

    miningman, boss likely won't pay for surveyors. This is a pretty small company (<20 people). I don't have a budget or billing/buying power, I have to ask someone else to buy my lab supplies, let alone be able to pay for an inspection. I know it was a professional company that made the concrete...
  5. bottle77

    Help with Storage Tank Bolt Failure

    I asked him about posting the issue here, and he told me to go ahead and seek some feedback. I'm just hoping he'll listen to it.
  6. bottle77

    Help with Storage Tank Bolt Failure

    Hey all, I'll do my best to follow this advice. In the past, my input on equipment has been either ignored or I've been told not to worry about it, but hopefully this time will be different. I can't guarantee he'll listen to me, but he might listen to your responses since you have worked in the...
  7. bottle77

    Help with Storage Tank Bolt Failure

    Also @3DDave, I checked the broken bolts again and it looks like a tension break, here's a picture: It doesn't look too sheared off. I mean that it looks like a tension not shear break because the break isn't flat, although I've never seen a sheared bolt so I can't really say. Also it looks...
  8. bottle77

    Help with Storage Tank Bolt Failure

    Yeah, we're thinking that the vent got clogged and that's why the pressure built up. I will pass on that info, but in the past I have not been asked to help design or install any equipment and I feel like this is going down that path. I think that since I'm young and have about zero hands on...
  9. bottle77

    Help with Storage Tank Bolt Failure

    He doesn't have a college education if I remember right. Definitely finished high school though. I don't think he would care for me asking so I don't know if I can confirm.... He started this company ~8 years ago with some seed money from his father who was/is the CEO of a construction company...
  10. bottle77

    Help with Storage Tank Bolt Failure

    So check valves have a spring inside that keeps the valve closed, but pops open when the designed pressure is reached to keep the tanks at roughly atmospheric. There's one to let air out and another to let air in. in the middle is the vent valve that is opened during filling. it is one inch and...
  11. bottle77

    Help with Storage Tank Bolt Failure

    Thanks for the link MJCronin. So Yugoslavia was involved after all.... I take it then you don't think much of these tanks... I'll ask what standard they were built to.
  12. bottle77

    Help with Storage Tank Bolt Failure

    @littleinch and geoff13 It doesn’t look like I said it earlier, the inlet is 2”. I’ll see if I can get some answers from the boss and operators on how they leveled the tank and how they installed the vent. I can ask the manufacturer, but I’m fairly certain they were designed to be outside just...
  13. bottle77

    Help with Storage Tank Bolt Failure

    I think we need to increase the venting on the other tank, and maybe switch to the anchor chairs to keep it from failing in a similar manner. Once again thanks for the advice, and let me know if I can clarify anything else
  14. bottle77

    Help with Storage Tank Bolt Failure

    @3DDave The hole drill temp was probably ~40F, so Δ100F sounds right. No one was around when they failed so I can’t say definitively how they failed. I can say that one of them was found a considerable distance away, so maybe it was tension? Is there a good way to tell from the fragments...
  15. bottle77

    Help with Storage Tank Bolt Failure

    @Geoff13 copied from above: . The tank had a truly flat bottom, now it is domed out , which seems to support the consensus of over-pressurization. Boss said in an email that they have a 1’ ball valve that is opened during filling and emptying, and 0.5psi check valves for when the product is...
  16. bottle77

    Help with Storage Tank Bolt Failure

    @MJCronin The only thing they asked me about the tanks before buying them was “will the chemicals eat through them” and “what is the cheapest way to heat them.” Beyond that I wasn’t consulted about buying or installing them. I assumed that they had the experience and knowledge to do it, and was...
  17. bottle77

    Help with Storage Tank Bolt Failure

    Thanks for all the info and advice, @MJcronin, @Geoff13, and @3DDave.
  18. bottle77

    Help with Storage Tank Bolt Failure

    We are. They said it looks like an overpressured tank, but out vents and check valves are pvc. Wouldn't they fail before the steel would deform?
  19. bottle77

    Help with Storage Tank Bolt Failure

    The chemical identities might help. The tank that broke bolts is holding nonylphenol and the tank that didn't is holding epoxy-resin.

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